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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:54 pm to
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:54 pm to
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well the CRA in many/most cases denied rights, like the most famous contemporary examples of the right to freely associate

now the point of the VRA wasn't to deny rights, but the execution denied equal participation in the political process to all sorts of people. forced districts based on minority representation removed the ability of those communities/states to draw up the districts.

now, you're probably going to respond with something about my subjective evaluations, but whether i agree or disagree with these laws is irrelevant to the discussion. i'm just pointing out that they do deny rights/liberties to people

I'll concede that the CRA infringes on private property rights but earlier you said that laws only deny rights? Are you denying that the CRA and the VRA restored many rights that had been denied during the Jim Crow era?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/7/14 at 2:59 pm to
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Are you denying that the CRA and the VRA restored many rights that had been denied during the Jim Crow era?

i'll defend the VRA's intent and most of its execution (i think it should have been scrapped 20 years ago, though)

something had to be done

but again, i'm not an anarchist

i think the CRA was proper with respect to public bodies. public bodies should not discriminate, and Jim Crow = state action

i can support the intent of the CRA with respect to private parties, but i don't support the implementation. i don't think that is a problem that can be solved by law and/or the effects of the law are just as discriminatory and liberty-reducing
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