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re: time for another crusade
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:14 am to Champagne
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:14 am to Champagne
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They would agree with your comments in these posts addressing the issue. Their idea is that the USA stops persecuting Muslims, stops killing Muslims . . . and the Muslims' desire to kill us will diminish to the point where we accept a tolerable number of our wives, daughters, etc. being blown into a pink mist of blood and bone fragments by high explosives detonated by Islamic Terrorists.
Your argument starts off fine and then devolves into an insipid statement reflecting your opinions, which, after reading that, I highly doubt will change.
Thus, this entire discussion is futile and useless.
I have a question for you. Do you believe that fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc., actually makes us safer as a country? If so, why?
Why were there no Islamic terrorist attacks against us prior to our involvement in the ME in the 1970s?
Would pulling out of those shitholes reduce the chances of attacks to zero? Of course not. That is impossible, but I will claim that the number of people who become terrorists in those countries would decrease dramatically.
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:21 am to Scruffy
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Thus, this entire discussion is futile and useless.
Don't conclude anything just because I used some highly emotionally charged language. I did that for the sake of later argument.
Is a certain level of US civilian casualties in our homeland acceptable to you?
If your answer is "yes", then, is not a logical consequence going to be the kind of graphic scene that I portray? If yes, then, is it logical to say that this graphic consequence is acceptable to you?
If you don't care to answer this line of questioning, that's OK.
You may have the right idea here. I have an open mind. Many smart military leaders have said that we cannot "kill them all."
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:29 am to Scruffy
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Would pulling out of those shitholes
You know, that might not be enough to garner the support of Islamic world.
Osama bin Laden's demand for the cessation of the Jihad were two-fold, one of which you agree:
First, withdraw all US military bases from all Islamic lands. Any US civilians there must strictly follow Sharia law either by being Muslim or paying the Dhimmi tax.
Second, the USA must immediately end all economic ties with Israel, end all economic support of Israel and end the US/Israeli alliance. The USA must halt all UN votes in support of Israel's anti-Muslim policies.
I agree with you and Osama bin Laden that, to the extent that the USA implemented one or both of these policies, we could logically anticipate some decline in the Jihadi desire to blow us up.
I do believe this: as time progresses and the Western resolve to fight continues to decline, more and more US/Westerners will come to agree with bin Laden's conditions for peace.
We can have peace with Islam. All we have to do is to submit to the demands of Osama bin Laden.
IMHO, a New Crusade is far less likely than Western submission to bin Laden's demands.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 9:33 am
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