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re: My take on the band Phish

Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
the Verde River
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:11 pm to
I am amused by:

1."but WSP has an array of different songs. They continually bring back songs from way back and hardly ever play the same songs (except for a few regulars)" as an argument. Take a look at Grateful Dead 1977 setlists (generally regarded as a pinnacle for jam bands) and you will find a plethora of Sugarees, Scarlet>Fires, Estimated Prophets, Samson & Delilahs, St. Stephens, Wharf Rats,etc... Not much variation at all, yet still a phenomenal year and easily a contender for best tour of all time in Spring '77.

2. Using songwriting in a jam band discussion is funny. Using WSP as a standard is hilarious. Ribs and whiskey'd.

3. There is a lot to say when a band's longest song show in and show out is a drum solo.
Posted by StickyFingaz
Austin
Member since May 2013
13483 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 10:15 pm to
I'm not talking songwriting (I haven't heard enough Phish), but just song number overall.

I'm not making them a standard, just saying they do a great job of mixing it up.

TGD is TGD... I'm not trying to compare them OR Phish to them.
Posted by StickyFingaz
Austin
Member since May 2013
13483 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:16 pm to
And that still doesn't answer the question.

Does a band that doesn't play the same songs over a 6-7 show period make up for the constant "noodling" (which is bullshite) jimmy does?

Drums is drums... It may be the longest song, but how many times have y'all bitched because Trey has gone too far?

What gives?
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20513 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Using songwriting in a jam band discussion is funny.


Songwriting isn't important? It is to some people.

If there is any area where I think Phish is lacking, it is in the songwriting. Their vocal melodies aren't very memorable. The lyrics are generally goofy and uninspired. This is why I think the Dead is a better overall jam band, even though I find Phish to be better at actual "jamming."
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