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re: Jars of Clay frontman earns ire for position on gay marriage

Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 3:55 pm to
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Marriage has had a legal definition for quite some time.


Actually the legal definition of marriage has changed radically over the past 100 years.

Wives now own property in a marriage on equal footing with their husbands.

Divorce is now allowed in most places without even having cause - that's quite a radical change - and in all places violations of the contract are treated equally with regard to which party commits it.

Wives and husbands now have virtually equal custodial rights to their children (with the exception that some states prefer the mother in early childhood)

Inter-racial and inter-religious marriage is
allowed.




Marriage has actually been re-defined quite a bit since the birth of our nation.
Mostly in the way of women's rights - but also in the way of racial and religious liberty.


But I know you don't care. Belief based hatred is impossible to counter with facts.


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Hence, we can't just grant the rights, we have to change the existing marriage (applicable previously only to heterosexual couples) definition.



You're actually completely free to remain in whatever marriage you are in right now with no change in terms whatsoever - and heterosexuals will continue to have the exact same marriage rights as they have before. The only reason you would seek to deprive homosexuals of that same liberty is through belief based hatred.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79415 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 4:12 pm to
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You're actually completely free to remain in whatever marriage you are in right now with no change in terms whatsoever - and heterosexuals will continue to have the exact same marriage rights as they have before. The only reason you would seek to deprive homosexuals of that same liberty is through belief based hatred.



Such nonsense. Can't argue substantively, must project fear/hatred/etc.

The male-female nature of marriage was not malleable. Suddenly, it has to be, or else we're all bigots. It's a cowardly argument because you refuse to level with us (or yourself) about the motivations of the "marriage equality" movement's hardcore supporters.

So again, how would civil unions preclude equal protection?
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