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re: public ban on the use of tobacco

Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:38 pm to
You need government intervention to get things done sometimes. It took the gov to end segregation when a lot of businesses were whites only. Just as an example. I have no problem and applaud when gov does something positive for once and bans smoking in public places. Hust as I applaud making it illegal to text and drive or talk on anon hands free phone. I also applaud mandatory helmet laws and seat belt laws front and back. OK so a little off the track

Just as in smoking in casinos, the gas station owners lobby bought off the gov in NJ and no self service.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:45 pm to
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It took the gov to end segregation


segregation was existing law, and I would guess that if I went and looked at the books for say, los angeles county, I would find some form of jim crow legislation
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9055 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:45 pm to
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You need government intervention to get things done sometimes.


I agree. But I don't see smoking on private property as an area that government needs to be involved in.

Yes, you can claim it's a health hazard, but it's not inescapable. If you don't want to eat in a restaurant that allows smoking, then you can go to a restaurant that bans it.

I don't see texting and driving as analogous. I cannot choose who I drive next to or who I share roads with.

I don't see seatbelt/helmet laws as analogous either. My understanding of those laws is that they were created for healthcare expense reasons. Banning a smoker from smoking in a certain area is not going to make him quit smoking altogether. The health risk lies in the act of smoking, not in where you smoke.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:47 pm to
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I also applaud mandatory helmet laws and seat belt laws front and back. OK so a little off the track


you applaud the government telling people what to do when their action or inaction has no effect on anyone else? God I hope you don't come from money, you deserve to live in the utopia you keep voting for.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:50 pm to
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You need government intervention to get things done sometimes


you mean most times. You think you need laws in place so that you can eat a good meal at a smoke free restaurant...are you fricking retarded? I ask because you seem woefully incapable of doing things for yourself.
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