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re: Lafayette, LA may have the best ISP in the nation.....
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:20 am to loopback
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:20 am to loopback
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To you? No.
quote:Here's the thing: households don't need any particular speed. I think an internet connection is a basic necessity these days, but even the slowest of broadband is generally good enough, sure. Your beef with gigabit is strange, though. If some home users want gigabit, why shouldn't ISPs deliver? I, for one, would certainly fill the pipe occasionally. And the rest of the time I would enjoy the nearly instant page loads that 25mbps (or even 100mbps) can't give me. If another ISP comes to my area and offers gigabit at a reasonable price, then my current ISP should rightfully be afraid of losing me as a subscriber. As far as "cutting corners" and creating more work for themselves down the road, that's just a business decision they will have to make. Personally, I think waiting and/or taking their sweet time to plan the perfect rollout would be a worse business decision.
My beef..all along, which somehow got twisted, is that HOUSEHOLDS don't need this kind of speed yet.
And companies are rushing to bring this speed to market in fear of losing those subs. Which, in my opinion will cause corners to be cut, compromises to be made, and in the long term a lot more troubleshooting and unessessary work.
quote:Yeah, you have said this several times, and it still doesn't make a lick of sense. It's as if you automatically equate "rushing to provide gigabit" with "doing a shitty job rolling out gigabit service with shitty quality".
I believe it's silly that these ISPs are rushing to provide a service that 90% of its customer base doesn't need.
And if 10% of my customers want/need faster service, I believe I would do what it takes to deliver if the alternative is losing them to another ISP.
quote:OK, so, they should be building the infrastructure and making gigabit service available, right now? But not "rushing"? How are you defining "rush"? Regardless, do you know what happens to companies that don't "keep up"?
Should they be building the infrastructure to support it and make it available? Absolutely, but should they be rushing to keep up? Nah.
quote:This has to be one of the most ridiculous statements I have ever read. Never in my life have I heard of someone using the word "unfortunately" to describe the effects of a free market and competition. This is aside from the fact that there has been a severe lack of competition in the ISP industry, which is the reason our internet speeds are way behind the curve globally.
Unfortunatley due to free market and competition, they will have to rush.
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 2:21 am to Korkstand
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This has to be one of the most ridiculous statements I have ever read. Never in my life have I heard of someone using the word "unfortunately" to describe the effects of a free market and competition
I don't understand why you don't get what I mean here. If a cable company has to intently focus all their time and effort (you think all they do is provide internet?) on building an infrastructure (at a fast pace) to provide a level of service that customers don't actually need right now, it won't have a negative impact on the business?
If a sports bar is forced to focus all of its resources (budget, focus, time) on upgrading it's TVs to 70" flat screens when only 3% of customers will actually get use out of a TV larger than 50"(which are already installed in the bar), what happens to the quality of food, level of service, menu expansion, drink quality, etc? I think it suffers.
I feel like cable companies are going to have to focus on this more than they should right now and at a faster pace. When DOCSIS 3.0 first hit the market, ISPs rushed to bring it to the customer and there were issues, lots of them. Eventually it balanced out and they got it right.
All I'm saying is, in my experience, when you are feeling the pressure and hurry to implement something there tends to be mistakes made, issues that arise, etc.
I completely agree that because of demand and free market, ISPs are going to have to get moving and this is probably the only way it would ever happen, I just wish it was to provide a service or product that people need and will use immediately.
Put yourself at the head of an ISP, it will cost you 100 million to provide fiber to the home and you will only have 15% (and that's generous) of your 300,000 customers use the service at gigabit speeds that's 45000 customers using it at a cost of 2,222 a customer. say you charge $70/mo for gigabit, you'll have to keep those 45000 customers for over 2.5 years just to recover your costs. That doesn't make much business sense.
With all that said, in the grand scheme of things, I guess it works out for the best because in time (who knows how much time though) more customers will use the service and the infrastructure will already be in place.
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