re: *OFFICIAL* Fringe M/TV Board rewatch thread (current episodes discussion p. 60)

Still waiting for discussion from last week's episodes (and the week before I believe)...

This week:

The Boy Must Live

Ah, the good ole water tank. I remember the days of "using the tank is a bad idea, and getting in it multiple times is a REALLY dangers and bad idea."



So wait, the Observers can jump that easily around time and into the past/future? Then all of this shouldn't matter...but I guess, as we've talked about, that's one of the main problems when time travel is introduced.

Walter has these memories of the past, like when Peter came to visit him, and Peter tells him "How can he [September] make you see a life you didn't live?" What the frick? Walter didn't live those things? Of course he did...we saw that he did over four seasons so far. Peter resetting in the machine shouldn't have erased those things because Peter is still here. I have a feeling this won't ever be explained and it's a huge gripe I have. Can anybody explain that shite to me?



Is September/Donald proof that the tech being embedded into your spine isn't actually as life-threatening (or damaging to your humanity) like they explained to Peter (to make him take his out)?

Michael is September's son...that's right; I do remember that happening.

That bomb thing in September's apartment sure as hell took long enough to detonate. What a waste...that was WAAAAAAAAA too slow.



White tulip. Awwww shite.



Good job, Mike. Way to go and get captured on purpose...you're only the most important part of this whole goddamn plan. You had ONE job..







Liberty

IIRC, doesn't Michael boss up on Windmark and make his nose bleed? Yup...thought I remembered that.

So he's being held in a detention center on Liberty Island? Well that should be NBD for Olivia since she's broken out of that place in one way or another about 37 times now..

Peter to Liv: "What if I lose you too?" Correct me if I'm wrong, but if this whole thing works and they get Etta back, wouldn't that mean he'd get Liv back too? So even if she dies on this mission getting Michael, if the plan works, it all resets and they are together again.

Walter putting that doctor in his place on the cortexiphan was boom-worthy awesome.



And Liv is moving and jerking around an awful lot for having a needle stuck directly into her brain stem.

Peter calling Walter "dad" again. Awww damn.



I'm curious as to why the Observers wouldn't have invaded the altverse when they invaded this one. Clearly the altverse were in cahoots with this one during last season, and the people are pretty much the same (hell, the Lincoln in the altverse is literally the same Lincoln from this one since he chose to stay over there). Seems like an awfully bad decision to ignore taht universe when it could be such an asset to be used to get around things and defeat the Observers. And on that note, why haven't they used that more often? Maybe because it's so hard to cross over?

Faulivia!!!



I still want both Livs to make out with each other.



Fauxlivia and Link haven't aged a bit. It's like they didn't even try to make them look older, despite it being like 21 years later.

How did that Observer follow Liv to the altverse so easily? If the Obs can see someone disappear and automatically know where they went and be able to follow them, then their time jumping skills present even more of a problem than I originally thought. That was instantaneous and he followed her to the altverse in a heartbeat...and then another one (who wasn't even there) did the same thing. Why have they even been searching at all for these people when they can simply morph straight to where they are, no matter what universe they're in..?

Also, how did Link and Fauxliv shoot the Obs with normal guns? The first guy wasn't looking, so okay, but the second one that crossed over was looking right at them. I thought Obs could dodge/grab bullets or whatever, which is why the resistance uses those special guns that shoot extra fast.

Why is Windmark questioning this loyalist at all? Can't he just read his mind and get the answers? Maybe he was testing his loyalty and seeing if he would try to lie..?