re: when have you been friend-zoned?

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If you don't make out with a girl at the end of a good date she will think that you are a pussy with zero confidence

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I don't agree with that. Most women are neurotic enough to think that something is wrong with themselves if you don't make a move, and they'll give you another date. That's assuming she likes you in the first place though.

There are millions of guys that wait until the second date and then make their move, and have great relationships. It is not as cut and dry as you try to put it.