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re: Gun Control in Nazi Germany

Posted on 5/13/14 at 9:10 pm to
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/13/14 at 9:10 pm to
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So do you have a substantive argument, Clark?


Yeah. If the Jews had had guns, maybe, just maybe 6 million of them wouldn't have been slaughtered.

Europe has always been a gun control Mecca, it wasn't just Nazi Germany that disarmed its people. The whole continent was pretty much devoid of private ownership of guns.

Sure, there were some who were permitted to own firearms, but they were the exception, not the rule.

LC
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
16934 posts
Posted on 5/13/14 at 10:12 pm to
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Yeah. If the Jews had had guns, maybe, just maybe 6 million of them wouldn't have been slaughtered.


And that is not the thesis of the book nor does it refute any of my criticisms of the book's thesis. So I'm still waiting on you to actually counter any of my remarks which you seemed to find so funny but added no substantive counter arguments. But apparently you somehow believe that millions of foreign Jews met their demise because a few hundred thousand in Germany were prohibited from owning guns...after a law passed in November of 1938.

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Europe has always been a gun control Mecca, it wasn't just Nazi Germany that disarmed its people. The whole continent was pretty much devoid of private ownership of guns.


National Socialist Germany actually had far more gun liberties than most current day Europeans have. The common held notion that intense gun control was a cornerstone of Nazi power grabbing is fabricated. I know it is a fun argument to try and tie gun control to the Holocaust, because it scores so many cheap argumentative points, but it is a fallacious argument.

There are plenty of very strong and easy arguments to make in favor of gun liberty in this country and the last thing we need is people making BS correlations between gun control, Nazi Germany, and the Holocaust when they are so easily invalidated. I guess I prefer our side to not stoop to the opposition tactics of dishonest appeals to emotion and sensationalism.

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Sure, there were some who were permitted to own firearms, but they were the exception, not the rule.


Really? Have you read the laws? What statistics do you have to demonstrate that?
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