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re: WAFB investigates students being given grades in an EBR School

Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:50 am to
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:50 am to
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If you really dig deep there are four sides here


Four sides and three causes...

1. Shitty people raising kids in a shitty way.
--Many of these are in shitty communities where the pressure to join in the fecal fiasco is a constant. You can have the best teachers in the world at a school but if the kids are getting bombarded with constant negative reinforcements from their community and (often) their family, those teachers face a Sisyphean task.

2. Shitty administrators.
--This one focuses on the shittiness of administrators that won't administer but rather play favorites and the politics of avoidance so they can keep getting by with doing as little as possible. This is what happens when you put weak-willed people in positions of authority.

3. Nationwide standardized testing being the be-all/end-all.
--As these tests become more and more important, schools feel more and more pressure to teach just to that test. Shitty administrators will come up with ways to cheat the test (thus defeating the purpose of the test in the first place).

Solutions:
1. The federal government needs to put less emphasis on national standardized testing. Not every school is standard, nor are all children. If the federal government is going to give money to schools, then give it on a per-student basis, the end. Accountability MUST come from only the state and local levels as this one-size-fits-all business from the federal government has done nothing but LOWER scores over the past 40 years.

2. Any school district with a school that receives a grade C or lower for 3 years in a row will be subject to the following:
---A complete, public review of all administrative staff (including school board members and the superintendent) with the full transcripts being made available for download on each school's website. During this period there shall be no closed meetings of any sort of the school board.

3. The return of corporal punishment and shaming.
---As the ability for teachers to discipline in the classroom has diminished, the unruliness in the classroom has increased. A teacher CANNOT teach in an environment where kids feel free to mock, or even strike, a teacher with impunity.
----For those parents against paddlings, they can either pay to send their kids to a private school or homeschool them.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
37504 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 12:29 pm to
thxs for sharing, good ideas.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9072 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 12:35 pm to
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3. Nationwide standardized testing being the be-all/end-all.
--As these tests become more and more important, schools feel more and more pressure to teach just to that test. Shitty administrators will come up with ways to cheat the test (thus defeating the purpose of the test in the first place).


Discipline problems aside, standardized testing in schools is one of the biggest problems with our education system today.

In addition to what you mentioned, it is also creating a generation of young adults and college students who have no ability to think critically and take on tasks with minimal or no supervision. I see it every day, and it's terrible.
Posted by Dorothy
Munchkinland
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:04 pm to
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Any school district with a school that receives a grade C or lower


Just curious, but how do you propose schools should be "graded"? Because currently, most of a school's grade is based on student performance on standardized tests, which as you said, not every school is standard, nor are all the children. It has been widely argued that in general, schools with a higher poverty level have lower scores on standardized tests, which is why you might see lower school (and district) scores in BR or Baker as opposed to Zachary or Central. (Although this is not the case in schools with selective admissions or more parental involvement, such as Forest Heights Elementary, which has a high percentage of free/reduced lunch students but still scores an "A".)

Like doubleb, I'm on the fence on standardized testing for similar reasons as well as I'm not so sure testing portrays an accurate picture of a school.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 1:06 pm
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