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re: Snowden and Putin really throwing it down on us now.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:35 am to Oenophile Brah
Posted on 4/17/14 at 11:35 am to Oenophile Brah
Rohan:
Have you even READ the Bill of Rights? That is a legal document. The fact that any amendments being violated by this collection of data is a HUGE deal. If you can't see that, I have no words for you.
I don't think this is the BIGGEST issue of our time, but it is definitely up there. If we continue to let our government erode our rights that are inherently ours, and OVERSTEP THOSE LEGAL BOUNDS, then we have lost out on our future as a free society.
Extreme change takes extreme effort and extreme ideas. The only thing harder than getting the right thing to happen is getting the wrong things to stop.
Brah:
Nobody nominated him. Heroes aren't selected by people. Heroes stand out on their own and are recognized for it later, when people appreciate what they have done.
And if you think that people as a majority want their shite collected, or even read for that matter, you are bat-shite nuts.
See above, and take some time yourself to comepare what is happening with the NSA to a certain legal document I mentioned before.
And that is BEFORE we even talk about voter fraud and other smaller, but equally effective, means that government is using to keep the people up top in power.
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I love how you act as if Snowden exposed some secret concentration camps where the U.S. government was holding and torturing its own citizens on trumped up charges.
Again, please, one of you Snowden fanboys link me to where he exposed government action that was in clear violation of standing U.S. law. Or perhaps explain to me how a layered, accountable bulk collection of phone data, not content, is the most pressing issue of our time.
Have you even READ the Bill of Rights? That is a legal document. The fact that any amendments being violated by this collection of data is a HUGE deal. If you can't see that, I have no words for you.
I don't think this is the BIGGEST issue of our time, but it is definitely up there. If we continue to let our government erode our rights that are inherently ours, and OVERSTEP THOSE LEGAL BOUNDS, then we have lost out on our future as a free society.
Extreme change takes extreme effort and extreme ideas. The only thing harder than getting the right thing to happen is getting the wrong things to stop.
Brah:
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Who nominated Snowded as the nations sponsor? Who said this is what the "nation" wants? I missed that
Nobody nominated him. Heroes aren't selected by people. Heroes stand out on their own and are recognized for it later, when people appreciate what they have done.
And if you think that people as a majority want their shite collected, or even read for that matter, you are bat-shite nuts.
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What laws has the government been deemed to have overstepped since his revelations? I'm unaware of any
See above, and take some time yourself to comepare what is happening with the NSA to a certain legal document I mentioned before.
And that is BEFORE we even talk about voter fraud and other smaller, but equally effective, means that government is using to keep the people up top in power.
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