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re: Tensions rise in Nevada-snipers,1st am zones,no fly zones used and in effect
Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:09 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:09 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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So basically the only similarities are the feds being involved. Or do you think the feds should have left David Koresh alone and ignored the child abuse in the compound
This is bull$hit propoganda right there - Child welfare services didn't raid Waco - the ATF did - and why? Because they thought they had too many guns. If the government wanted to build a case against them, they should have followed due process and done so - they were too chicken$hit to serve a warrant by knocking on the door like in a civilized society. But, it was much more exciting and macho to trot out the ATF SWAT team.
And Koresh didn't resist law enforcement when he was brought in on the child abuse charges, which he originally beat - they threw that out to demonize him during the standoff.
Now - I'm in the position of having to defend the actions of a crazy man - but how crazy was he? He kept preaching to his followers that the government was going to bring down an apocalypse around them, and by G-d he turned out to be correct.
(Those people were targeted because there were creepy religious people with guns.)
Posted on 4/12/14 at 9:19 pm to Ace Midnight
Koresh was crazy, and created a self-fulfilling prophecy, which the feds were, regrettably, all too willing to oblige. To give credit where due, they learned from their mistakes and handled subsequent standoffs much better and without violence, despite considerable provocation from groups like the Montana Freemen and Republic of Texas Militias, which were both itching for a fight.
That's basically what happened here. The feds have deescalated and will deal with this later when the passions die down.
That's basically what happened here. The feds have deescalated and will deal with this later when the passions die down.
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