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re: Questions about Reagan

Posted on 4/10/14 at 12:43 am to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/10/14 at 12:43 am to
He'd probably be considered a RINO by today's GOP hardliners.

Reagan gets credit for ending the Cold War, but so should every other president since WWII. He happened to be the one on whose watch it occurred. Maybe he sped up the process by a couple of years, maybe not. It's arguable. I believe he took some needless risks-the Russians were seriously considering preemptive war at one point based on their fear of what Reagan might do.

He fricked up supremely in Beirut, and I'd argue that Grenada was a wag the dog attempt to deflect attention from it. Then there was Iran-Contra. If Clinton lying about a blowjob was an impeachable offense, then what Reagan did certainly was, but Reagan was popular, and the Democrats had no balls.

Much of the blowback we've had to deal with in the Middle East is traceable to decisions on his watch. We can also thank retreads from the Reagan era for our disastrous Iraq policy under GWB.

On the domestic side, he was a wild deficit spender to expand the military.

He wasn't a terrible president, but he doesn't belong on Mount Rushmore, and doesn't deserve the deification he gets from the some quarters.

On the plus side, he wasn't personally corrupt, and I believe he loved this country, his heart was in the right place and he meant well, although several of his policies were terribly misguided.
This post was edited on 4/10/14 at 1:10 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 6:29 am to
Reagan had the ability to go above the heads of a hostile media and Democrat congress and connect directly with the American people. It was a rare talent and if you lived during his presidency and compare him to the following office holders you can appreciate it even more (although Clinton had this same skill to some degree).

The hostages in Iran, bombing Gaddafi and 'Tear down this wall' are all legendary events from his presidency. He was maybe the last President to openly talk about the threats of a large Federal government.

The media still hates him, and I worry that in years to come as people die off his legacy will become more of a media creation than what happened in reality.

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He'd probably be considered a RINO by today's GOP hardliners.


And what would JFK be considered by today's Democrat Party? The subtle dig in the line above shows some level of political naivete. Plus I don't know that it is accurate.

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so should every other president since WWII


Jimmy Carter?

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their fear of what Reagan might do


Part of the reason Amercans loved him after the Carter shite show and one of the reasons the USSR eventually fell apart not long after Reagan IMO.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57455 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 8:42 am to
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He'd probably be considered a RINO by today's GOP hardliners.
Silly. Comparing Reagan's ideology to the 'ideology' of Lindsey Graham, John McCain, Olivia Snowe, Boehner, and McConnell is non-sensical.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48348 posts
Posted on 4/10/14 at 10:10 am to
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Much of the blowback we've had to deal with in the Middle East is traceable to decisions on his watch. We can also thank retreads from the Reagan era for our disastrous Iraq policy under GWB.


That's fricking nonsense. Our issues with poor foreign policy in the Middle East can be traced back to the Paris Peace Convention in 1919 after World War I and everything else in between.



Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 4/13/14 at 8:23 pm to
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He fricked up supremely in Beirut


Yes he did, if that happened in todays climate no president would survive.
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