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re: GA man arrested after catching daughter and boyfriend in the shower

Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:44 pm to
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5152 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:44 pm to
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Because of course you have to have a kid of your own to have a credible point of view.


When speaking if children, it obviously helps.

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The kid was in retreat mode and the dad still went after the boy and beat the crap out of him. That's not protecting your property from a trespasser. That's being an irrational thug. Self defense and protection of property under the law ends when the other guy is in retreat mode.


Wrong! Seen it first hand. A chap who was trespassing ended up with a broken jaw and the sheriff told him he shouldn't have been there.


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This has nothing to do with what I said





I think it most certainly did.


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You can either be a loving and caring saint of a father that makes sure his children know what to do in any situation that arises and prepares themselves accordingly or be a tyrannical and assholish douchebag of a father that restricts the flow of information and life lessons to his children and only to see them being unprepared for the real world and implode.


How many kids did you say you had, Dr Spock? I find it funny that a chump with no children thinks he knows how to raise children. I am sure you think you know what you're talking about,but you're clueless.

A father's job is to teach his daughter her worth and her value. To teach her that she is better than what some 16 year old Don Juan wants from her. That she is absolutely better than what the boy has to offer her.

I never said anything about restricting information. But conceding to sex at 16 is irresponsible to the level of neglect. A father owes his child enough to do what's right for her even when it isn't easy. Being you are so close in age to 16 you probably won't get it for years to come.


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Incorrect, the only one acceptable reason is self defense, protecting your property and protecting others. That's it.


bullshite! Naked kid who railed your daughter is definitely arse whipping material. It has been all throughout history, nothing's changed.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 3/30/14 at 10:51 pm to
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bullshite! Naked kid who railed your daughter is definitely arse whipping material. It has been all throughout history, nothing's changed.



Brah, families used hand off their 12 year old daughters to get married to 30 somethings back in the day. Brush up on your history pal.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6507 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:32 am to
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Wrong! Seen it first hand. A chap who was trespassing ended up with a broken jaw and the sheriff told him he shouldn't have been there.


You keep bringing up trespassing. I don't think it means what you think it means.

A person who is invited into a home by the resident of said home isn't trespassing. And the step father pretty much consented to his presence in the house when he sat down and waited for them to get out of the shower.

But I forget, I don't have kids so there's no way I could have any kind of rational, informed opinion on the matter.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6507 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:51 am to
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Thie father can deal with a trespasser as he deems fit in my opinion. The boy had no business being there.


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A chap who was trespassing ended up with a broken jaw and the sheriff told him he shouldn't have been there.



Twice, or roughly 40% of your posts in this thread. And you can interpret all you want, but the fact of the matter is you don't have carte blanche to wail on any guests in your house just because you didn't invite them and you don't like what they're doing.

Based on the few facts available, he was not trespassing, he was an invited guest of a resident of the house. He is also a minor.

If you came home to your kid in the shower with someone else, kick that person out of the house and parent your own damn kid.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 1:40 pm to
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When speaking if children, it obviously helps.


It's still a non sequitur and neither here nor there. There are tons of parents with daughters who agree with me and people without kids who don't agree with me. That goes for any discussion about kids and teenagers for anybody and their point of view.

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A chap who was trespassing ended up with a broken jaw


In this story, he got beaten when he was in retreat mode and running away, your right to self defense and protection of property ends when the trespasser is running away. If you can't understand this, I don't know what to tell you.

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How many kids did you say you had, Dr Spock? I find it funny that a chump with no children thinks he knows how to raise children. I am sure you think you know what you're talking about,but you're clueless.


My source of knowledge on this subject is my excellent and wonderful parents and the excellent job they did raising me and I will pass down those lessons and knowledge they taught me to kids of my own.

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A father's job is to teach his daughter her worth and her value. To teach her that she is better than what some 16 year old Don Juan wants from her. That she is absolutely better than what the boy has to offer her.


Commendable statement and I see no issue with it.

But the fact remains that she so happens to be 16 like the 16 year old don juan and likely wants the same thing as he does and you have to teach her how to deal with that and that's a job for her mother imo.

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never said anything about restricting information. But conceding to sex at 16 is irresponsible to the level of neglect. A father owes his child enough to do what's right for her even when it isn't easy.


Teenage boys and girls are naturally curious about each other and they're going to frick somehow, someway without the parents knowing. I know it's an uncomfortable thought to have but you would do them a world of good making sure they understand the risks, life changing consequences and what can happen if they are not careful. My parents did just that and I'm a better person for it today with a comfortable life as opposed to people who just implode in large part of their parents sheltering them excessively or not giving enough of a shite about them.

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Naked kid who railed your daughter is definitely arse whipping material.


Well, since the hookup was completeley consensual and they both agreed to it, I hope you're planning on bearing the daughters arse too. Fair's fair.

But anyway, too bad the law disagrees with you and will arrest you and put you in jail if you try it. Sucks for you.

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It has been all throughout history, nothing's changed.


Oh yes, it's changed.

Slavery used to be legal, that's changed now.

A lot more fricked up shite we did used to be legal and that's changed now.

Not a good argument.
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