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re: Saints Talk Draft Project: The Dirty Dozen for #27

Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:00 am to
Posted by bonethug0108
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:00 am to
I get all that, but the Saints usually have pretty different grades on some guys than these mockers. Hell they could have Landry ranked as one of their top WRs and the other guys could all have 3rd round grades.

That's why I'm saying the shouldn't(and they won't) pass on a guy no matter his size if the value is there no matter what round it is.

I was just pointing to Cooks because he was being mentioned as too short to be a 1st rounder and other guys would be better a round later because they are taller.

Insert whatever name you want and the scenario is the same. Height is not going to be THE determining factor as others have been suggesting.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 8:54 am to
I think a good example of what we're both talking about is Vaccaro vs. Mathieu.

The value was certainly much better for Mathieu in the third than Vaccaro in the first. Vaccaro is the better player, but it's not like he's far and away better.

So who would you rather have? There are a ton of other factors that have to be looked at, such as who gets drafted instead and who we don't draft, if Mathieu would be a better or worse scheme fit, how is the player in the locker room, and what is the long term ceiling for each player.

So let's say that Cooks or Beckham are Vaccaro and Moncrief or Matthews is Mathieu. You get one of the first two in the first or one of the second two in the second.

The first two are going to be all pro by their third year and the second two are going to be borderline pro bowl.

Yes you get better value one the second two, but you get better players on the first two.

This isn't a clear cut answer. I'd be happy with the results either way.
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