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re: Saints Talk Draft Project: The Dirty Dozen for #27
Posted on 3/30/14 at 4:30 pm to bonethug0108
Posted on 3/30/14 at 4:30 pm to bonethug0108
I'll do a follow up just to help illustrate. There are prototypes that teams look for and that is why some really good players fall very far or don't even get drafted.
Peyton Manning was the prototype QB. Smart, strong arm, accurate, and tall. Brees was all of those things(minus some arm strength) except tall. Both are now considering some of the best to ever play the game. Brady fell to the 6th round because he was viewed as some scrawny kid. Also now one of the best ever.
So would you rather have Brees or Alex Smith? This is the type of false dilemma you keep presenting me with only now I've flipped it so the prototype guy is average and this misfit is all world.
This is all I'm saying. DO NOT FALL IN LOVE WITH THE PROTOTYPE. It's about the talent. If they feel Cooks is a better player than they should take him and not shy away because he doesn't fit "the mold".
If they feel he's going to be a bust than pass. Same goes with every guy, regardless of what size they are.
Size is not THE determining factor.
Peyton Manning was the prototype QB. Smart, strong arm, accurate, and tall. Brees was all of those things(minus some arm strength) except tall. Both are now considering some of the best to ever play the game. Brady fell to the 6th round because he was viewed as some scrawny kid. Also now one of the best ever.
So would you rather have Brees or Alex Smith? This is the type of false dilemma you keep presenting me with only now I've flipped it so the prototype guy is average and this misfit is all world.
This is all I'm saying. DO NOT FALL IN LOVE WITH THE PROTOTYPE. It's about the talent. If they feel Cooks is a better player than they should take him and not shy away because he doesn't fit "the mold".
If they feel he's going to be a bust than pass. Same goes with every guy, regardless of what size they are.
Size is not THE determining factor.
Posted on 3/30/14 at 5:13 pm to bonethug0108
Why do you keep trying to compare players after the fact?
Of course Drew Brees is good. Of course Steve Smith is good.
History tells us height is a pretty big limitation for some positions. There's a reason Drew Brees and Steve Smith are only a handful of All pro caliber short players at their position. There's a reason there aren't any 6'0" offensive tackles...But but but they are talented!!!!!
How can you say it's not a determining factor? Chances are, if you are drafting a 5'9" WR or a 5'11" QB, they are not going to be all pros, mainly because of their height. Everyone has "talent" as you keep saying. Physical limitations are a real thing.
Do you not think there are tons of talented 5'10" QBs in the world? Of course there are.
It's like saying any 6'6" player can play Center in the NBA, because Ben Wallace did it and was a defensive player of the year.....Yea well, there are tons of talented 6'6" basketball players...But most wouldn't be successful NBA centers.
Im not falling in love with anything. Im telling you how history has played out. You can't ignore the facts.
again, stupid question.
would you rather Randy Moss or Steve Smith?
See what I did there? I dont even know what you are trying to prove exactly
Of course Drew Brees is good. Of course Steve Smith is good.
History tells us height is a pretty big limitation for some positions. There's a reason Drew Brees and Steve Smith are only a handful of All pro caliber short players at their position. There's a reason there aren't any 6'0" offensive tackles...But but but they are talented!!!!!
How can you say it's not a determining factor? Chances are, if you are drafting a 5'9" WR or a 5'11" QB, they are not going to be all pros, mainly because of their height. Everyone has "talent" as you keep saying. Physical limitations are a real thing.
Do you not think there are tons of talented 5'10" QBs in the world? Of course there are.
It's like saying any 6'6" player can play Center in the NBA, because Ben Wallace did it and was a defensive player of the year.....Yea well, there are tons of talented 6'6" basketball players...But most wouldn't be successful NBA centers.
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This is all I'm saying. DO NOT FALL IN LOVE WITH THE PROTOTYPE. It's about the talent
Im not falling in love with anything. Im telling you how history has played out. You can't ignore the facts.
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would you rather Steve Smith or Brandon Lafell?
again, stupid question.
would you rather Randy Moss or Steve Smith?
See what I did there? I dont even know what you are trying to prove exactly
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