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On August 12, 2000 while a member of the Mets, Agbayani was involved in a particularly memorable play. In the fourth inning, with the Mets leading 1-0, the Giants loaded the bases after a double, an error, and a hit batsman. With one out, Giants catcher Bobby Estalella hit a fly pop to Agbayani in left field. Agbayani, thinking that the catch made three outs, gave the ball to a child in the stands and began to trot toward the dugout. It took him a moment to realize his mistake, but once he did, he sprinted back to the stands, pulled the ball from the hands of the young fan he had given it to, and fired a throw toward home plate. Unfortunately for Agbayani, once the ball left the field, the play was dead, and all three runners were awarded two bases—causing Jeff Kent and Ellis Burks to score, and the Giants to take the lead, 2-1. The Mets went on to win the game, 3-2, and Agbayani gave another ball to the fan who had given the previous one back.

So that says it was dead and everyone gets two bases. The umps never ruled the play dead though while it was going on (sorry this is referring to the LSU play last night). Typically they would put their hands up and tell the runners which base they are being awarded, but that didn't happen.

Maybe once the 3 got together they ruled it dead and determined everyone should get two bases? But technically the ball also never left the field of play. The coach picked it up in FRONT of the dugout.

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Posted by Billy Ray Valentine

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Posted on 2/20/14 at 10:25 am to PurpleAndGold86

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Maybe once the 3 got together they ruled it dead and determined everyone should get two bases? But technically the ball also never left the field of play. The coach picked it up in FRONT of the dugout.

Once the coach picks up the ball the play is dead.
The other instances where you refer to the ball touching someone other than one of the 9 defensive players are all inadvertent instances. If a coach or fan or ball girl, for example, grabs the ball the play is dead.

In your instance with the Mets, the reason the umps gave 2 bases is that if an OF throws a ball out of play it's a 2 base error as opposed to an INF (which it is a one base error... hence a 2B throws a ground ball into the dugout batter gets 2nd base).

Bregman could have walked home, doesn't matter that he kept running...he was awarded the base.

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