Let's set this aside, for a moment. Turning instead to the overwhelming number of murders in Chiraq being black teenager against black teenager, in many cases both of them illegally armed. Or are bystander casualties of these firefights.

Even if we take out the "emboldening criminals" element (which I agree is a factor is some crime and rates of crime, generally) - this graph at least flies in the face of the left's argument that more guns = more crime. It strongly supports a conclusion, as many of have been saying for decades, that lawfully owned guns are a deterrent to crime, or at worse, do not contribute to a violent crime rate. There are places with few guns, and little crime. There are places with many guns and much crime (e.g. Baton Rouge and New Orleans), but there are also cites with few legal guns, and a high violent crime rate.

One has little to do with the other.

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Posted by Alahunter

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Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:31 am to Ace Midnight

Let's add some more information, from another city in a state that has, since 1998, become one of the strictest gun control states..

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IN 1998, Massachusetts passed what was hailed as the toughest gun-control legislation in the country. Among other stringencies, it banned semiautomatic “assault” weapons, imposed strict new licensing rules, prohibited anyone convicted of a violent crime or drug trafficking from ever carrying or owning a gun, and enacted severe penalties for storing guns unlocked.

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Since 1998, gun crime in Massachusetts has gotten worse, not better. In 2011, Massachusetts recorded 122 murders committed with firearms, the Globe reported this month — “a striking increase from the 65 in 1998.” Other crimes rose too. Between 1998 and 2011, robbery with firearms climbed 20.7 percent. Aggravated assaults jumped 26.7 percent.

Meanwhile.. nationwide, there was a 39% drop in murders with firearms.

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The Department of Justice's latest report on gun violence by the Bureau of Justice Statistics shows a 39% drop in gun murders from 1993 to 2011. Non-fatal gun crimes are down 69%.

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