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re: Who is to blame for this alleged disappearance of the middle class?

Posted on 2/2/14 at 9:40 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 9:40 am to
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Of course taxes do not add money to the economy...printing money and lowering interest rates do that....my point is that if you taking billions of $ from one party and giving it another the recipient is going to have to do something with that money....
Your "point" assumes the "billions of $" taken would not have otherwise been spent in an economically productive way. Of course there is no factual basis whatsoever for that assumption, quite the opposite. Aside from that one minor detail though, it's an interesting thesis.
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If your premise is that there is going to be billions of $ re-distributed to health care providers and insurance companies because more people are going to have access to insurance and will demand more services then yes, there will have to be more infrastructure like hospitals and clinics built.
If that's your premise, it flies in the face of reality.

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Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 4:43 am to
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Your "point" assumes the "billions of $" taken would not have otherwise been spent in an economically productive way. Of course there is no factual basis whatsoever for that assumption, quite the opposite. Aside from that one minor detail though, it's an interesting thesis.




No my friend, my premise assumes no such thing...my premise is that the tax dollar is exactly the same dollar no matter whose hand it is in....the person who earned will put in the bank or invest it somehow and it flows back to the economy....the person who recieves it from the earner from the IRS does the same thing....that is my point and my premise...there is no difference....except of course the person who earned it and remitted no longer has it and that pisses us off no end....


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If that's your premise, it flies in the face of reality.


Time will tell, my friend, time will tell. I hope your premise and these links are correct because it will mean that health care is more competitive and in the end less expensive (if businesses close in a growth market it has to be either poor management OR the competition is simply too stiff).
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