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re: NYT smears Rand Paul, LvMI, Rockwell, Rothbard, Spooner, Block as racists.
Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
No, it's not. The article simply states the fact that libertarianism is associated with some dubious ideological positions, including neo-confederate apologetics. Even someone like Block reveals some of the faultlines in this line of argument when he feels the need to defend the brutality of slavery with a bit of fantastical revisionism.
And these associations are an interesting and worthwhile story, since, as the article points out, Rand's 2016 competition will bring them up against him in the presidential primary.
I think the article accurately presents Rand Paul as the interesting and complicated figure he is (and someone much more attractive than the likes of Ted Cruz), whose national campaign will be saddled by the complicated and occasionally distasteful legacy of the libertarian movement.
And these associations are an interesting and worthwhile story, since, as the article points out, Rand's 2016 competition will bring them up against him in the presidential primary.
I think the article accurately presents Rand Paul as the interesting and complicated figure he is (and someone much more attractive than the likes of Ted Cruz), whose national campaign will be saddled by the complicated and occasionally distasteful legacy of the libertarian movement.
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Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:42 pm to Bayou Sam
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I think the article accurately presents Rand Paul as the interesting and complicated figure he is
That's simply not true. Paul does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as guys like Spooner or Rothbard. Rand has nothing in common with them. He has abandoned any sense of his father's philosophical Libertarianism (If he ever had it).
If you want to go after Rand as a racist, focus on his association with Jack Hunter (Who isn't a racist, no matter how they try to make it seem).
Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:47 pm to Bayou Sam
quote:What are you talking about. The article is ridiculous. Hell the authors cannot even bear to address the man's name appropriately.
I think the article accurately presents Rand Paul as the interesting and complicated figure he is
Mr. Paul?
Seriously?
Posted on 1/26/14 at 4:49 pm to Bayou Sam
Rand has nothing in common with Rothbard or even Spooner who are straight up anarchists. NYT is way off base here.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 5:32 am to Bayou Sam
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No, it's not. The article simply states the fact that libertarianism is associated with some dubious ideological positions, including neo-confederate apologetics. Even someone like Block reveals some of the faultlines in this line of argument when he feels the need to defend the brutality of slavery with a bit of fantastical revisionism.
This.
And the Right not only speaks in hyperbole but reads in hyperbole. They not only exaggerate their descriptions of liberals, they exaggerate liberals' descriptions of them. In short they're Drama Queens.
And btw NC, the NY Times has addressed men as "Mr." Since the beginning. Your comment underscores my point. That was Jo dig at Mr. Paul.
Posted on 1/27/14 at 6:21 am to Bayou Sam
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No, it's not. The article simply states the fact that libertarianism is associated with some dubious ideological positions, including neo-confederate apologetics.
And liberalism is associated with communism, right?
The article links Paul and Libertarianism to nuts who have wacko beliefs, but also happen to believe some of the Libertarian ideas. Would be no different than including references to Stalin and Mao in an Obama piece since they both believed in universal health care. Yes, some Libertarians are not mainstream philosophically, but some Democrats are communists. It was an attempt to paint Paul as a nutjob by association and VERY dishonest.
This is what one does when they cannot effectively debate the actual ideas. The media can't, so they will constantly bring up nutjobs who support him. This was never, of course, done when Obama was running.
Come on, it's not that complicated.
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