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re: Bieber's actions blamed on steroid use (Clenbuterol)
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:44 pm to Kcrad
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:44 pm to Kcrad
Well I don't know about others, but I don't think anyone in this thread and past threads are looking to make a pro team, but maybe take differemt step in something that is a part of my every day life.
I doubt I ever find sellers and will stick natural, but I personally don't see my interest in steroids any worse than those interested in drugs to get high.
I doubt I ever find sellers and will stick natural, but I personally don't see my interest in steroids any worse than those interested in drugs to get high.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:53 pm to Indfanfromcol
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I doubt I ever find sellers and will stick natural, but I personally don't see my interest in steroids any worse than those interested in drugs to get high.
Stick natural. I did two cycles of diabonal back in the early 80's, haven't pouched them since.
The idea of working out is to improve your physical health, adding steroids do just the opposite.
Leave your illegal drug strawman at home. Steriods are illegal, too. Unless you find a quack who will prescribe them to you.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 5:58 pm to Indfanfromcol
I actually teach an elective in vitamins, herbals, and neutriceuticals. I would love some anecdotal accounts from people who have used high dose HMB or tongkat ali (ingredient from some testojack varieties). Yes, I even lift bro. Usually I have my blood drawn in class and pick a supplement to test every year. Anecdotally, I can tell you that high dose raspberry ketone is shite (you will burp raspberries). TTA (tetradecylthioacetic acid) did lower my cholesterol. I will have the current results from this year's high dose beta-sitosterol around St. Patricks day.
Posted on 1/25/14 at 6:14 pm to Indfanfromcol
Let me see if I can refute your "not worse than" assertion in a way you can understand. Steroids target nuclear receptors, which means they have several barriers to overcome in order to reach their target. Generally speaking, the greasier (carbon to noncarbon ratio) the steroid, the better. Unfortunately, greasy drugs need to be made less greasy/more soluble for clearance. Most of this happens in the liver; hence, greater liver toxicity. Also, lifting weights naturally increases bone density and strengthens muscle attachment points to bones (ligaments,tendons). Anabolic steroids cause muscle growth and strength to outpace this natural process, which leads to an increase in bone and joint damage.
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