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re: Hitler's Speeches With Subtitles... An Incredible Leader and Horrible Man.

Posted on 1/12/14 at 12:25 am to
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 12:25 am to
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Stalinism would have been a better example for you as the Nazi Party was decidedly fascist, and therefore decidedly right wing.



You are "decidedly" clueless, ignorant and uninformed.

National SOCIALISM was a leftist/collectivist ideology. Not only was the word "socialist" in the name of the party, but, the very speeches featured in the OP make it clear that Hitler's message was socialist/collectivist/leftist.

Was Hitler's Nazi Party to the Right of Marxist Leninism? Sure, I'll give you that. But it was still Leftist.

So, if Hitler was a Lefty, WHO WERE THE RIGHT WING in Germany of those days? The Monarchists and those who wanted to restore the monarchy and the German/Prussian nobility to positions of political power were the Right Wing.

It is true that, in order to consolidate political power by encouraging the support of German industry and banking, Hitler tempered the extreme left of his party, but, this was later on, and, this political accommodation did not fundamentally alter the basic nature of the ideology, which was Leftist.

This post was edited on 1/12/14 at 12:27 am
Posted by Sayre
Felixville
Member since Nov 2011
5516 posts
Posted on 1/12/14 at 2:54 pm to
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You are "decidedly" clueless, ignorant and uninformed.

National SOCIALISM was a leftist/collectivist ideology. Not only was the word "socialist" in the name of the party, but, the very speeches featured in the OP make it clear that Hitler's message was socialist/collectivist/leftist.

Was Hitler's Nazi Party to the Right of Marxist Leninism? Sure, I'll give you that. But it was still Leftist.

So, if Hitler was a Lefty, WHO WERE THE RIGHT WING in Germany of those days? The Monarchists and those who wanted to restore the monarchy and the German/Prussian nobility to positions of political power were the Right Wing.

It is true that, in order to consolidate political power by encouraging the support of German industry and banking, Hitler tempered the extreme left of his party, but, this was later on, and, this political accommodation did not fundamentally alter the basic nature of the ideology, which was Leftist.




It never fails to amaze me how some dingbats with no real knowledge of which they speak have the audacity to call anyone else clueless or ignorant.

No matter what you personally think, and I have no doubt you'll never change your cognitive dissonance laced mind, the Nazi's were a far-right organization. Fascist racist nationalism is about as far right as you can get. Just because you yourself don't know the real history behind these terms and their usage does not change the facts. 'Socialist' does not automatically equate to leftist, no matter how much you protest to the contrary. It all comes down to the application.


The use of the name “National Socialism” arose out of earlier attempts by German right-wing figures to create a nationalist redefinition of “socialism”, as a reactionary alternative to both internationalist Marxist socialism and free market capitalism, both of which they saw as being too closely aligned with Jewishness.



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