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re: Jay-Z may soon compete with Drake, Lil Wayne and Birdman over blue-chip athletes

Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:09 am to
Posted by BIGDAB
Go for the Jugular
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:09 am to
This is White BIGDAB. It changes from I don't like watermelon to I like watermelon depending on who's posting.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53274 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 10:16 am to
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can't link the article right now, but the deal with the nets was really a cover for the Barclays center, which he still has a nice stake in. So he will basically make money off the Barclay center as long as he lives.


He sold his one fifth of one percent stake in that, too.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17941 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 11:08 am to
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Would it be crazy for coaches to devalue a potential draft pick for these reason? It might show that the draftee is more concerned with celebrity status than football success. Those scouts analyze every possible angle, so that line of thinking would not surprise me.


Cute thought, but this is real life. People are stupid and will gladly overpay if they think it makes them better. Even if 29 baseball GM's are smart, there will be one who thinks he is even smarter.

As in Cano and Pujols.
Posted by BIGDAB
Go for the Jugular
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 1:58 pm to
No he didnt


Yeah he did
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 2:02 pm
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:07 pm to
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Didn't JayZ's company just sign 31 year old Robinson Cano to a 10yr/240+ mill deal?


Scott Boris would have found a way to keep him with the Yankees like he wanted. That's the difference between a good agent and Jay-Z.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:10 pm to
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Scott Boris would have found a way to keep him with the Yankees like he wanted. That's the difference between a good agent and Jay-Z



Yea, no chance Boras could have pulled that off. None.
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:16 pm to
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Yea, no chance Boras could have pulled that off. None.


Whoops my spelling has been bad today. You're kidding yourself if you don't think a more experienced agent with better connections wouldn't have found a way to structure the deal to keep Cano with the Yankees.
Posted by southernelite
Dallas
Member since Sep 2009
53274 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:17 pm to
I'm not shitting on Jay, he's made some solid business moves, but he's not what some in here are talking him up to be.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111707 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:22 pm to
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You're kidding yourself if you don't think a more experienced agent with better connections wouldn't have found a way to structure the deal to keep Cano with the Yankees
The Yankees weren't giving him $240mil, I'm not sure what else to tell you here.

You don't think an agent on Jay-Z's team knows how to structure an offer? I'm sure they do, the problem is there was no "structure" that Cano would have accepted that didn't amount to $240mil. Can you think of one?
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:31 pm to
The Yankees offered $25 Million/year he ended up with $24/yr from Seattle. Boras would have figured out a way to get it to 10 years which is what Cano wanted. I have no idea what negotiations were like with Jay-Z's group and the Yankees but I have to believe Boras would have got what Cano wanted out of them. We're talking about the guy that has set record after record for baseball contracts.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111707 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:34 pm to
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The Yankees offered $25 Million/year he ended up with $24/yr from Seattle
Irrelevant, the years was the sticking point.

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Boras would have figured out a way to get it to 10 years which is what Cano wanted
Boras would have figured out a way to get it to 10/$240? Again, zero chance.

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I have no idea what negotiations were like with Jay-Z's group and the Yankees but I have to believe Boras would have got what Cano wanted out of them. We're talking about the guy that has set record after record for baseball contracts
Look Boras is great, but he can't just get any contract he wants. Especially coming off the heels of a few long term deals gone bad very early into them.

There' just zero chance the Yanks were going to offer $240mil.
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 2:49 pm to
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Look Boras is great, but he can't just get any contract he wants.


All the guy does is hit home run after home run for his clients. I'm not saying $240 was possible with the Yankees but I bet he could have got Cano a deal that was acceptable to him and kept him in New York. He hasn't given any reason to think otherwise given his track record.
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