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OT Financial Reps/Insurance Sales: Advice?

Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:07 pm
Posted by jefffan
Florence- Sumter- Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2013
4971 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:07 pm
I am currently engaged in the training process to become a rep for Modern Woodmen. Any of you got first year advice or horror stories?

TIA
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65371 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

I am currently engaged in the training process to become a rep for Modern Woodmen.


Go to a real company. You're going to hate life there and end up somewhere else anyway
Posted by LSUgolf
Hogs ROLLED 34-30
Member since Feb 2004
4932 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:10 pm to
IF YOU are not assigned any book of business good luck. very tough to start scratch
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
49625 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:21 pm to
1. Get ready for the word "No" like you've never heard it before.
2. Beans make great dinners. And lunches.
3. Never prejudge a potential customer - you never know how much money they have. Just because they sound uneducated and dress like a bum and smell like shite, they could be wealthy, willing, and able to buy your product.
4. Always treat your potential customers like people. Don't treat them like you're starving (which you will be at first). If you come across as genuine, they'll like you. If they like you, they're more willing to buy from you.
5. Be persistent, not pushy. Look out for your potential customers, not yourself.
6. Always, and I do mean ALWAYS, be willing to learn. Don't ever assume you know how to sell. People change and so do their buying habits.
7. Remember TDsngumbo if/when you make it big and become successful off of his tips and advice. I've tried this business in the past without a book of business and I failed miserably. Thankfully I was humble enough to accept failure and move on. I'm better now because of it and I'll never, ever regret trying it out.

Good luck
This post was edited on 11/8/13 at 4:25 pm
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118235 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:25 pm to
They aren't giving you any orphans?
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118235 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:49 pm to
If you gave up on this thread after 42 minutes, it's pretty obvious what your future in sales looks like.

Good luck.
This post was edited on 11/8/13 at 4:50 pm
Posted by RebelOP
Misty Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2013
12498 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

Modern Woodmen




Oh yeah, go to a real company.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118235 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Oh yeah, go to a real company


quote:

Today, the Modern Woodmen of American is the nation’s third largest fraternal benefit society, with close to 750-million members. The group has assets of over $9 billion. Close to 2,200 chapters or ‘camps’, exist in the U.S., mainly in the Midwest and the South. MWA meetings are held throughout the year, along with parades, and community events. The MWA also supports youth activities and organizations throughout the country. In 2008, Modern Woodmen of America celebrated their 125th Anniversary.


Not real enough?

OP would be better off as a navigator on the exchange prolly.
Posted by RebelOP
Misty Mountain Top
Member since Jun 2013
12498 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 5:07 pm to
No not real enough:

Northwestern Mutual -
quote:

The company maintains unsurpassed ratings for insurance financial strength from all four major rating agencies (Standard & Poors lowered ratings for a number of insurance companies, including Northwestern Mutual, to AA+ in August 2011. This was in response to "the United States government being removed for the first time ever from its (S&P's) list of risk-free borrowers"):[2] A.M. Best,[3] Standard & Poor's,[4][4] Moody's, and Fitch Ratings.[5] The company is the nation's largest direct provider of individual life insurance in the United States,[6] with more than $2 trillion in force. It is also the industry leader in total individual life insurance dividends paid to policy owners.[7]


Oh yeah they are the official sponsor of the NCAA this year.

NY Life -
quote:

is the largest mutual life-insurance company in the United States, and one of the largest life insurers in the world, ranking #89 on the 2013 Fortune 500 list,[1] with about $381 billion in total assets under management, and more than $19 billion in surplus and AVR.[2] In 2007, NYLIC achieved the best possible ratings by the four independent rating companies (Standard & Poor's, AM Best, Moody's and Fitch). In June 2009, the same four rating companies reaffirmed New York Life's "superior" financial strength, which became a selling point in national TV ad campaigns that same year. The company is now one of only three life insurers to hold the highest ratings currently awarded to any life insurer by all four rating agencies (Moody's: Aaa, A.M. Best: A++. Standards & Poor's: AA+, Fitch: AAA. All of these are for financial strength.[3]).


Mass Mutual -

quote:

Founded in 1851, Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance Company (MassMutual) is a mutual life insurance company with 1800 offices and 13 million clients worldwide. Mass Mutual is one of the largest Life Insurance companies globally and was ranked 93rd in the Fortune 500 list (as of 2010). The Company has revenues of about $25 Billion (2010) with Assets under Management at $448 Billion (2010).


Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118235 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 5:10 pm to
Guess what the recidivism rate would be for a new agent at any of those three.


Then, in a year, he'll right back where he started.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11338 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 5:33 pm to
Selling life insurance is a very competitive. Tough way to earn a living.

Go into claims for a major company. Been in the industry 25 years now. Great job and benefits. Pays pretty well too
Posted by jefffan
Florence- Sumter- Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2013
4971 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

If you gave up on this thread after 42 minutes, it's pretty obvious what your future in sales looks like.

Good luck.


Actually I went to get dinner, but nice troll
Posted by jefffan
Florence- Sumter- Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2013
4971 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

RebelOP


Interviewed at MassMutual back in May. Sent 5 emails after I drove 2 hours to Charleston. That POS sent me a false psychological exam and then never contacted me again.

Haven't had an opportunity at the only two.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:41 pm to
Go to a bank. You will have a pool to contact. From this you will fine tune your approach and build a little book. Then you can go to an independent and start building a career. My opinion only.
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
11582 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

Go into claims for a major company. Been in the industry 25 years now. Great job and benefits. Pays pretty well too


I'm a recent grad and that's where I landed.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78015 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 9:44 pm to
Be a claims manager
Posted by Sdento1
Member since Aug 2013
30 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 11:27 am to
Try State Farm- they are in the top 2 percent of life companies and you have the p&c product as well.youncan make a lot more $
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
8018 posts
Posted on 11/10/13 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

Today, the Modern Woodmen of American is the nation’s third largest fraternal benefit society, with close to 750-million members.



750Million, hunh? Someone's bullshite detector is broken.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
20474 posts
Posted on 11/11/13 at 8:50 am to
There is some wisdom in this thread, my friend.

MW is a very tough sell. Life insurance, in general is tough. Most people that can afford it don't think they need it.

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