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re: Spoke with an NFL scout regarding early departures today.

Posted on 10/21/13 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/21/13 at 6:35 pm to
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Sticking with Minter, I'm sorry but there was no reason for him to come back, despite what this 1 scout says. He graduated, was in the program for 4 years, he was a 2nd round pick coming off a great season. He was not going to get bigger or faster.


Minter he spent a lot of time on because I asked him a lot. He repeated unless 1st or 2nd rounder he would stay and obviously Minter went in the second round.

Ok here is the boring part. Why he thought Minter "maybe" should have stayed is because he strongly "and he repeated strongly" feels Minter would have been the first linebacker drafted this year and won the Butkus award. He says when you are drafted in the 1st round, everyone in management from the scouts, to the coaches to the gm have every incentive in the world to make sure you succeed, because if you don't the owners are going to put the blame on them. So he is going to get chances earlier to perform. He didn't think that Minter's play would drop off at all and the injury risk is a risk but the difference between his contract from the 2nd round this year to probably a top 15 pick next year over the life of the contract he felt would be at least $5mil. He said is that amount of money worth the risk for another year in college, in his opinion it is. But again that is his opinion.
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 6:47 pm
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59283 posts
Posted on 10/21/13 at 6:42 pm to
There are a lot of assumptions there if he wins the Butkus, but what about guys like Hubbard and Mosely or pass rushing LB's? If the team falls off, he might not get the attention. Its not so much that his play would fall off, but it really couldn't improve and other scouts may hold that against him. If he was taken in the top 15-20, he'd make more off his first contract, but that's still an extra year at zero and he is a year closer to the 2nd contract. I understand people on the pro side thinking another year of playing is better, but like i said, he graduated, was in the program 4 years, was a 2nd round pick. If the only reason for him to stay is maybe he moves up, i don't think that's good enough.

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moving up to be top 1, 2 or 3 rounds is huge in pay is it worth the risk. He believes so but he also states that every player is player specific obviously.


Very easy to say it is worth the risk when it is not your money being risked. Generally I agree with the above, if not rounds 1-3 stay, except for RB's. I think Simon should have stayed he had a lot of room to move up and was a true Jr, same with Faulk due to injury. The rest I thought going made sense. Even Montgomery was drafted in the 3rd and it seems his "drop" had a lot more to do with interviews and stuff he did/said like taking games off, than that he didn't play enough.


Of this year's crop, I think Collins should stay. He plays a high value position that gets drafted high and this is his first year playing it at the college level. An extra year could greatly benefit him. Hill, Landry, Beckham, might as well go.
This post was edited on 10/21/13 at 6:48 pm
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4059 posts
Posted on 10/22/13 at 2:42 pm to
you're using quotes as parentheses...


sry.
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