Well to even consider a lot of LEO's competent with their weapons is crazy. Most of the LEO's that I know shoot when they have to qualify for the department which is usually 2x a year and that's all they ever use their duty gun. 150 times a year LEO's WATCH a suspect walk up and kill them because they don't know what they frick they are doing and can't hit shite. I've trained enough of them to see this. A department like the LAPD on the other hand makes their officers shoot once a month to stay current with their perishable skills. Their shooting is MUCH better than say the Memphis Police Department. Moral of the story is that if you train even with 30-40 rounds 1x per month you will be way more effective than someone who shoots 500 rounds in a day 2x a year. Its also all about your mindset, if you have never thought about why you carry a gun you have no reason to be carrying one. Practice kids.

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Posted by TBoy

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Posted on 9/13/13 at 12:12 pm to Jma313

Everything in that story and that study is accurate. That doesn't rule out that if you have a few seconds to collect your thoughts you might be able to do some good.

However, it is true that the idea that you are Cool Hand Luke just because you have a CC permit is a delusion and a problem.

The suggestion of the story is to train yourself. That is a good suggestion.

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Posted by CoastieGM

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Posted on 9/13/13 at 5:30 pm to Jma313

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Well to even consider a lot of LEO's competent with their weapons is crazy. Most of the LEO's that I know shoot when they have to qualify for the department which is usually 2x a year and that's all they ever use their duty gun. 150 times a year LEO's WATCH a suspect walk up and kill them because they don't know what they frick they are doing and can't hit shite. I've trained enough of them to see this.

This mirrors my experience. I had to qualify/train many reservists who were LEOs in their civilian jobs. 75+% couldn't pass a basic Navy F Pistol course the first time and a third couldn't pass no matter how many times they tried. Arrogant and close-minded with a false sense of capability. Only 25% were truly competent.

Hopefully that's changing since we have more combat vets entering law enforcement these days. Quite a few of these kids coming out of the service these days are pretty hot shite.

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