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re: Chris paul.. 2nd best pg ever?
Posted on 8/21/13 at 8:15 pm to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 8/21/13 at 8:15 pm to TeddyPadillac
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none of those stats really matter.
wut
So we can only look at total assists and total steals to measure a player's worth? You realize that teams in the 80s played at a much faster pace and therefore were able to accrue more total stats?
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I don't think there's an argument yet that he can be the 2nd best pg of all time. Quit comparing him to stockton and compare him to Kidd.
One guy compared their first 8 seasons. Paul is just as good and arguably better than Stockton through 8 years. He blows Kidd out of the water after 8 seasons. One could argue that he is better than Magic and Isiah through 8 years. 8 years isn't enough to be considered the best, but Paul is a HOF if he never plays again.
Paul has arguably the best stretch of any pg ever from 07-09. Those two seasons are pantheon level.
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You seem to be arguing career accomplishments rather than "best", as in how good the guy actually fricking is at playing the game of baseketball
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:13 am to corndeaux
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So we can only look at total assists and total steals to measure a player's worth?
When a guy goes out and sets a ridiculous mark like Stockton has, yes.
Stockton has set the bar really really high in the one category that matters most to PG's, assist.
Those % stats mean nothing when it comes to hall of fame numbers, no one cares.
Do you try to look for ways to show that Griffey was a better home run hitter than Ruth and Aaron?
You could argue he's better, but he didn't reach 700. he fell just short at 630. so he's not really mentioned in that same breath as Aaron and Ruth.
I'm sure most people would take Griffey over Aaron, but when you talk about all time, Aaron will always be ahead of him b/c of that stat, the one that matters most.
I'm sure most people would take Isiah over Stockton, but when you look at a career well after they retire, the only thing most people look at are the big stat numbers, and Stocktons is way ahead of everyone else right now, and Kidd is close second.
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