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re: Bastian Schweinsteiger will struggle in Pep's new system

Posted on 8/16/13 at 8:47 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/16/13 at 8:47 am to
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I still think we'll eventually see Jan Kirchhoff or Javi Martinez as the defensive midfielder,

i don't get using javi as a dedicated CB for this reason: at barca the fullbacks acted as wingers in attack, essentially, and busquets drifted back into a CB role defensively. using javi at the DM position will accomplish the same thing, where he will play a hybrid-CB role a great deal as a DM

why make him a dedicated CB? let bastian play a xavi-like role as midfield facilitator/organizer a little up (where he can get back if needed). pair him with a more AM like kroos/muller in the iniesta role. then you have 2 inverted wingers and goetz/mad in the attacking roles, with the fullbacks acting as support wingers/outside mids

it makes so much sense that i don't get it. does pep really value kroos that highly? you could always use him as an offensive sub if you need to score and a way to rest muller (or riberty/robben, sliding muller out wide. i really fricking love muller, btw). if pep wants to use goetze as a central AM and not a CF or winger, this is going to get even more complicated
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 8/16/13 at 10:29 am to
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Whats Pep's ultimate goal tactics wise? Who would be his ideal XI?



I honestly have no idea. Not everyone has been healthy so we haven't gotten to see it.

I think with the long balls is that Pep wants to have Bayern put a ton of pressure on defenses this year. With his style of high pressure and with the inverted triangle, you have 2 center mids who play high enough up the field to press the two holding mids that nearly every team uses. I think the hope is that you either spring an attacking player with the long ball or you put their defenders under enough pressure where they just give it away to you in your offensive third.



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i don't get using javi as a dedicated CB for this reason: at barca the fullbacks acted as wingers in attack, essentially, and busquets drifted back into a CB role defensively. using javi at the DM position will accomplish the same thing, where he will play a hybrid-CB role a great deal as a DM



It makes a lot more sense to me to have Javi as a DM than a CB, I just think the idea of Javi as a CB is a way to make the lineup even more offensive though.

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why make him a dedicated CB? let bastian play a xavi-like role as midfield facilitator/organizer a little up (where he can get back if needed). pair him with a more AM like kroos/muller in the iniesta role. then you have 2 inverted wingers and goetz/mad in the attacking roles, with the fullbacks acting as support wingers/outside mids




Pep loves Robbery, it'll be hard to put those guys on the bench. You'd need to have Muller at CF to open up one of those CM spots, then you'd have Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Thiago, Goetze who can all play the 2 center mid spots. I think Goetze will play CF or one of the wings.
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