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re: Being "recession proof"
Posted on 7/9/13 at 12:22 pm to rintintin
Posted on 7/9/13 at 12:22 pm to rintintin
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Isn't the Atlanta market "booming" again? Do you see the same thing happening there?
Pockets have recovered nicely, then again these areas didn't decline as much and are in better/more desirable areas, people buying 20-30 miles out may never recover as know one wants to live that far out and deal with gas prices and commutes, some of those developments were very poorly planned. Until mortgage rates popped up recently sellers in desirable areas were receiving multiple bids at or above asking price on the first day of listing. Many areas outside of the I-285 perimeter, which became known as the circle of death, are still well below 2006/2007 price levels. We are roughly 8-miles from downtown, bought in 1998 and have put about the same $ amount in renovations in the house as the original purchase price, and, based on recent sales, are fairly accurately down 5% which isn't bad given the level of reno my wife wanted. I would be just as happy in a tiny house with moderate upgrades but go figure.
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Do you see the same thing happening there?
Depends on if people have learned their lesson and what happens with lending. I am buying into another commercial property, it is priced a little over 22% less than it sold for 5-yrs ago. It can be a slog but worth the work. I make a point to not become over-levered, it makes life a lot less complicated and more enjoyable.
Posted on 7/9/13 at 12:33 pm to tirebiter
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people buying 20-30 miles out may never recover as know one wants to live that far out and deal with gas prices and commutes
I am amazed at how far people in Houston are willing to commute on a daily basis. 20 miles is considered a short commute if you work downtown and live in the suburbs.
Posted on 7/9/13 at 12:49 pm to tirebiter
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I make a point to not become over-levered, it makes life a lot less complicated and more enjoyable.
This is my philosophy too. Leverage can be helpful, if it's well managed and a small percentage of overall portfolio. It can also be an albatross even if it is well managed. I've been on the verge of being homeless because of having too much debt and not managing it well. It took years to clean up the mess I made with my own stupidity.
That experience basically made me afraid of debt, because I never want to go through that hell again. When possible, I prefer to only buy real estate without leverage. If I must borrow, (which I haven't done in 2 years) I never borrow more than 20% of the value of my portfolio. Overly cautious perhaps, but I still make plenty of money, and I rest a lot easier.
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