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re: Vasquez PER 16.34, Holiday PER 16.74
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:50 pm to Billy Mays
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:50 pm to Billy Mays
gotta love stat geeks who don't watch much basketball
Posted on 6/27/13 at 8:52 pm to sunnydaze
Look at it like this. We improved both our starting lineup and bench. Gravy is better than Roberts
Posted on 6/27/13 at 10:04 pm to sunnydaze
I freely admit I didn't watch many Sixers games last year.
Everyone hates GV. That's obvious. He's a serviceable starting PG tho. Holiday is better. I get all of that.
I'm just trying to compare values based on stats - I didn't see Holiday play that much last year and his team sucked.
I've already admitted than Holiday is the better player (and with obvious upside), but is he worth 2 first round picks? Is he worth Burke/Mccollum and a 2014 1st rounder? IDK (nobody does but it's worth discussing, right?).
Also, if Holiday was an elite player, Philly wouldn't have traded him for 2 unknowns.
PER is not the be all end all, I'm just looking for ways to compared that aren't based on GV Pels Talk bias.
If he's in fact a better defender than GV that's value, so that's one positive in the trade. I've learned something ITT
Everyone hates GV. That's obvious. He's a serviceable starting PG tho. Holiday is better. I get all of that.
I'm just trying to compare values based on stats - I didn't see Holiday play that much last year and his team sucked.
I've already admitted than Holiday is the better player (and with obvious upside), but is he worth 2 first round picks? Is he worth Burke/Mccollum and a 2014 1st rounder? IDK (nobody does but it's worth discussing, right?).
Also, if Holiday was an elite player, Philly wouldn't have traded him for 2 unknowns.
PER is not the be all end all, I'm just looking for ways to compared that aren't based on GV Pels Talk bias.
If he's in fact a better defender than GV that's value, so that's one positive in the trade. I've learned something ITT
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