re: Much props to Jonathan Gray

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Nola doesn't have the swing and miss stuff that Maddux had.

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i was comparing the accuracy of the two pitchers not about swing and miss stuff.

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Nola doesn't have the swing and miss breaking pitches or movement that Maddux had. invalid comparison. A better comparison for Nola would be Ian Kennedy.

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agree to disagree. to say nola didnt have the hit or miss stuff last night like maddox i dont agree with. I was comparing how he pitched one game to how greg maddox pitches. Nola's game last night was the best i have seen from him. The dude was on.

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You act as if Gray is one of those fireballers with no command

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no i don't. Saying he needs to get better with accuracy does not mean i'm saying he throws without command. that's a faulty conclusion.

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You are literally the only person who thinks that.

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Just bc i dont follow the murder doesnt mean that im going to be wrong. And For what its worth, a few baseball analysts feel the same way. And still its just an opinion.

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Just look at his numbers and look at how he didn't walk very many of us

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that doesnt mean its going to translate to the pros. What I see from him right now he could easily be a lights out closer. But like i said if gets better with his accuracy and implements a good change-up that could easily change.

And i am by no means saying he pitched bad last night. He pitched phenomenal. He just went deep into some at bats and his pitch count got to high. Thats is one of the reasons Nola was able to out dual him.

this is just a discussion dont get so angry