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re: Least Talented Team to Win NBA Finals

Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:16 am to
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:16 am to
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His offensive was improved but his decline in defense was more pronounced.



There wasn't a decline in his defense. In 1992-93 his Defensive Win Share was 8.0 and in 1993-94 it was 7.9, the second and third best of his career. Don't tell me you're only looking at his blocked shots averages?

To add to that, his overall Win Shares for those two seasons were 15.8 and 14.3 respectively, BY FAR the best of his career.


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He was a marginally more efficient shooter from the field, not from the free throw line though.



Better FG%, TS% (or total shooting %, if you will) and eFG%. Better across the board.


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PER doesn't measure defensive performance.



Defensive statistics are factored in. Which should matter to you since you're only using blocked shots to measure his defensive prowess.


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That's also when Jordan was out of the league and he had his best supporting casts.





Jordan has absolutely nothing to do with this. They were in different conferences.


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You're wrong about this. There's more to the game than PER.



You're an idiot, Gamecock, as usual. I've actually watched his games and statistics back me up.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52956 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:21 am to
Oh, and for good measure, Hakeem won Defensive Player of the Year in 1992-93 and 1993-94.
Posted by Khal Drogo
Member since May 2013
138 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:34 am to
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There wasn't a decline in his defense. In 1992-93 his Defensive Win Share was 8.0 and in 1993-94 it was 7.9,


Yes there was. Check the Defensive Ratings out. His Win Shares went up because his Usage % went up.

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Better FG%, TS% (or total shooting %, if you will) and eFG%. Better across the board.



Like I said, he was a marginally better shooter from the field (a massive 2% difference) but wasn't as good from the line (again a small decline).

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Defensive statistics are factored in.


Steals and Blocks only tell part of the story. You know this. Defensive Rating is what you have to look at.

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Which should matter to you since you're only using blocked shots to measure his defensive prowess


Wrong again, but par for course for you.

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Jordan has absolutely nothing to do with this.


You serious Clark?

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They were in different conferences.


Well hell I'm sure Jordan had nothing to do with Malone, Stockton, Barkley, Mullin, etc. never winning a title either, because you know, other conference and all.

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I've actually watched his games


I watched them when they happened.

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statistics back me up.


Sure, if you only look at PPG and PER (the latter of which heavily depends on the former).
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