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re: Sources: LeBron to win 4th MVP

Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30237 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 4:49 pm to
It's revisionists history. Jordan lost playoff games. He lost playoff series. He didn't win a ring until his 6th or 7th year in the league (if I remember correctly). It wasn't until the Bulls hired a future hall of fame coach in Phil Jackson, got Scottie Pippen, etc...Even then, he needed guys like Paxon, Kerr, Rodman, etc.. to play their roles to make those epic runs.

I'm not saying LBJ doesn't need the same, but all the Jordan lovers act like he dropped 40 a night, highlight dunked on every play and won every game he ever played in.

Jordan is the best for now, but I strongly believe that once James' career is over, we will compare the two and realize the James was the more complete player (and could potentially be the greatest of all time).
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31085 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 5:01 pm to
Lebron is on pace to be the second greatest ever IMO. Jordan is just marginally more efficient and successful.

Assuming Lebron has like five more great years and two good ones before retiring, then he probably be second. He could make a real case for GOAT, but he would have to maintain this level for a good bit.

Best players ever in 2020:
Jordan
Lebron
Kareem
Wilt
Magic
Kobe
Shaq
Bird
Russell
West
Duncan
Olajuwon
Durant
Robertson
Malone
Erving
Barkley
Paul

Or something like that. That is just real quick off the top of my head. I kind of gave up on order, but this roughly the top 20.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 5/3/13 at 6:52 pm to
quote:

I'm not saying LBJ doesn't need the same, but all the Jordan lovers act like he dropped 40 a night, highlight dunked on every play and won every game he ever played in.



Well in those playoffs Jordan lost, he averaged
29.3, 43.7, 36.3, 34.8, and 36.7 while shooting .436, .505, .417, .531, and .510


In the playoffs Lebron lost he averaged
30.8, 25.1, 28.2, 35.3, 29.1, and 23.7 while shooting .476, .416, .411, .510, .502, .466, and .50


Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
11981 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 3:19 pm to
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It's revisionists history

You're right. You LeBron lovers are forgetting his choking before last year. These last 2 years though, he's on a mission.
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I'm not saying LBJ doesn't need the same, but all the Jordan lovers act like he dropped 40 a night, highlight dunked on every play and won every game he ever played in.

Uh yeah, Bosh and MVP Wade might be a little better than what Jordan had.
And Jordan averaged over 30 points a game for his career. So yeah, he was a more prolific scorer.
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Jordan is the best for now, but I strongly believe that once James' career is over, we will compare the two and realize the James was the more complete player (and could potentially be the greatest of all time).

Agreed. LeBron is playing like a beast and if he keeps it up, then he could be considered GOAT.

But to have people already calling him that need to go downstairs and set the table, mommy is calling them.

The one I really feel for is Durant. Not since Jordan has there been a player I have liked as much and who is money, but sitting behind LBJ. I think Durant should have won MVP last year but that's imo.
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