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re: The One Player You Just Flat-Out Don't Want to Draft
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:11 am to Suntiger
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:11 am to Suntiger
A lot better than I feel about Mingo. I haven't understood the Saints with their defensive drafts for the past 10 years.
This team doesn't need projects, it can barely get production out of its "developed" players. The 49ers can invest in "raw" prospects. The Saints need to plug holes now, not 4 years from now.
This team doesn't need projects, it can barely get production out of its "developed" players. The 49ers can invest in "raw" prospects. The Saints need to plug holes now, not 4 years from now.
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Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:19 am to Cajun Revolution
kinda ironic to me that the year when we would have a very strong chance to get the top 4-3 DE (Werner) we are switching to the 3-4. Jordan, Ansah, & Mingo all take some projecting. Jones is the only one with the precise game experience for the position. I'm heading up the Jones is this year's Terrell Suggs bandwagon. Suggs had the same good tape/terrible workout ID (of course no spinal stenosis). 84 sacks in 10 years for Suggs. I'd take that.
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:21 am to Cajun Revolution
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This team doesn't need projects, it can barely get production out of its "developed" players. The 49ers can invest in "raw" prospects. The Saints need to plug holes now, not 4 years from now.
agreed, but at the same time a lot of our recent defensive draft picks have been late so its not like we could have gotten a proven commodity.
The biggest maybe was probably malcolm jenkins when we had better options, but in hindsight we had a pretty decent LB corps at the time so we didn't NEED cushing or matthews
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:33 am to Cajun Revolution
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A lot better than I feel about Mingo.
This is what I don't get. How can people like Jordan and hate Mingo? They are similar size:
Barkevious Mingo LSU 6-4 241
Dion Jordan Oregon 6-6 248 (less girth due to height!)
They have virtually the same stats:
Dion Jordan: 121 tackles, 29 tackles for loss, 14.5 sacks and 4 forced fumbles
Barkevious Mingo: 119 tackles, 29.0 tackles for loss, 15 sacks and 4 forced fumbles
They graded out very similarly by NFL.com:
Mingo
Jordan
And Mingo played in the tougher conference.
WHY THE MINGO HATE AND THE JORDAN LOVE?
Posted on 4/5/13 at 12:39 pm to Cajun Revolution
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A lot better than I feel about Mingo. I haven't understood the Saints with their defensive drafts for the past 10 years.
This team doesn't need projects, it can barely get production out of its "developed" players. The 49ers can invest in "raw" prospects. The Saints need to plug holes now, not 4 years from now.
Most of the defensive players that the Saints have drafted in the first round in recent years have been considered "polished" and "can't-miss" players at their draft positions with the exception of Patrick Robinson who was considered a reach on many draft projections. Maybe it's time to take a chance and roll the dice on some crazy athleticism over guys with solid college stats and film such as Sedrick Ellis and Malcolm Jenkins. I do not believe our defense will be good in the first year transitioning from a 4-3 to a 3-4. Might as well take a chance on some guys who have sky high potential.
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