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re: Wide Receiver concerns
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:25 pm to blueslover
Posted on 3/31/13 at 3:25 pm to blueslover
You are comparing two of the greatest physically gifted players in NFL History in Lawrence Taylor & Randy Moss to Jarvis Jones? That's a bit of a stretch there don't you think? You are lumping in off the field issues into the same category as lack of preparation which are two totally different situations.
No matter what Taylor or Moss did off the field, you never heard anything negative from a preparation standpoint. Both played under very demanding coaches in Parcells & Belicheck & both drew praise from those two for their knowledge of the game & their preparation. We have yet to hear the same regarding Jones even though he was one of the top college players the last two years.
Being small is meaningless on the college level if you are the best player on the field. Tyrann Mathieu is a perfect an example of this. One can excell on the college level because not everyone on that level will make it to the next level. A player can get away with being physically good & not putting in the extra effort & work but that changes on the pro level when going up against the best of the best week in & week out.
If every NFL team went off of game tape for every draft then every Heisman winner in college would be the number overall pick. Game film is not THE SAY ALL determining factor when making the decision on a selection. It includes multiple factors as it should especially when it involves making a selection in the first half of the 1st round. You can go back years & look at film on college players who were lights out on that level but flopped in the NFL because they were undersized or lacked the proper work ethic. Jones has both of those going against him. Jones' size & work ethic scream NFL bust especially when the players lining up across from him or competing with him for his position are putting in that extra effort.
Besides game film, what other factors suggest Jones should be a high draft pick? His size? No. His speed? No? His work ethic? No? Great physical tools that project well on the next level? No. All people are leaning on are is his game film & that can be a huge mistake when projecting how a player will perform on the next level.
No matter what Taylor or Moss did off the field, you never heard anything negative from a preparation standpoint. Both played under very demanding coaches in Parcells & Belicheck & both drew praise from those two for their knowledge of the game & their preparation. We have yet to hear the same regarding Jones even though he was one of the top college players the last two years.
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"Jones is small, slow" doesn't compute with "able to play at a high level in college because of physical gifts "
Being small is meaningless on the college level if you are the best player on the field. Tyrann Mathieu is a perfect an example of this. One can excell on the college level because not everyone on that level will make it to the next level. A player can get away with being physically good & not putting in the extra effort & work but that changes on the pro level when going up against the best of the best week in & week out.
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The game tape shows a high impact playmaker.
If every NFL team went off of game tape for every draft then every Heisman winner in college would be the number overall pick. Game film is not THE SAY ALL determining factor when making the decision on a selection. It includes multiple factors as it should especially when it involves making a selection in the first half of the 1st round. You can go back years & look at film on college players who were lights out on that level but flopped in the NFL because they were undersized or lacked the proper work ethic. Jones has both of those going against him. Jones' size & work ethic scream NFL bust especially when the players lining up across from him or competing with him for his position are putting in that extra effort.
Besides game film, what other factors suggest Jones should be a high draft pick? His size? No. His speed? No? His work ethic? No? Great physical tools that project well on the next level? No. All people are leaning on are is his game film & that can be a huge mistake when projecting how a player will perform on the next level.
This post was edited on 3/31/13 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 3/31/13 at 9:55 pm to BigBrod81
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Besides game film, what other factors suggest Jones should be a high draft pick? His size? No. His speed? No? His work ethic? No? Great physical tools that project well on the next level? No. All people are leaning on are is his game film & that can be a huge mistake when projecting how a player will perform on the next level.
How about some facts?
2011:
He posted 70 total tackles including 19.5 for a loss, 13.5 sacks (which led the SEC), 2 forced fumbles and 26 quarterback hurries.
2012:
He recorded 85 tackles, 24 tackles-for-loss, 14.5 sacks, 1 interception, 7 forced fumbles, and 2 fumbles recovered.
BTW...that's playing in the SEC.
I guess on the field play doesn't count for anything as well.
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