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re: Anthony Davis leading all rookies with 14 double doubles

Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:28 am to
Posted by KG5989
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Posted on 3/12/13 at 12:28 am to
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Davis should be a much better defender than both of those guys...Aldridge is a pretty weak rebounder. They're both not very good shot-blockers.



Ha drake i know, i just dont want to compare him to 2 1st ballot hall of famers before he plays 30 mins a game. thats all. I mean we all get it, IF AD played more minute he would be better. We all get it. But I do see alot of Monroe in him. I see a Duncan/ Monroe comparison. Facts are that he doesnt play alot of minutes and nobody knows why. Im just going off of what he has done with the time he has played. You cant say if he played 13 more minutes this would happen or that would happen. Thats pretty much assuming what would happen and that isnt a valid argument.
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Why is Lillard a more "total player" than Chris Paul?


Did i ever say that? No. Thought not. Thats just what the list has him as. And you cant say if Lillard played less minutes this is what he would average, just like you cant say if AD played more minutes this is what would happen. Thats a fantasy world. In the real world, Lillard is putting up great numbers and AD is putting up good numbers per minute. You are going off of what ifs and thats not legit. Go off of the numbers because they are the only thing that is real in this discussion. As one poster said, based off your argument Drummond is the best C in the game based off his minutes. And I like Drummond, but come on? No way thats real.

And i said DeRozan and Wade as examples because youre argument was that if your a good scorer as guard, you would be draining 3s all day, so thanks for proving my point. Wade and Derozan are 2 legit NBA scorers and they are guards, but they cant make 3s.

Stop acting like were saying Lillard is going to be better than Davis, because thats not what im saying at all. All im saying is both are legit NBA players and both have bright futures and will be at the top of the league one day. Cant hate on Lillard for playing more minutes than AD, just like I cant hate on AD for playing less minutes. Thats out of there control.
Posted by drake20
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/12/13 at 1:06 am to
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You cant say if he played 13 more minutes this would happen or that would happen. Thats pretty much assuming what would happen and that isnt a valid argument.


...but that's all WE can do. Speculation on Hornets players' statistics seems like a good thing to do on a Hornets message board.

Do I know Davis will do that much more in 10 more minutes a game? No....But based on the small sample I have, and what I have seen from in 30+ minute games (as well as all the other games and his per 36 numbers), I think he would average a double-double right now given Lillard/Aldridge minutes.

JMO

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Did i ever say that? No. Thought not. Thats just what the list has him as


That's why I put it in quotes. Was just pointing it out, not seriously asking you why you though Lillard was better than Paul...My point was that the list is flawed, with some high minutes players like Lillard/Deng being rated higher than they should.

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Thats a fantasy world. In the real world, Lillard is putting up great numbers and AD is putting up good numbers per minute. You are going off of what ifs and thats not legit. Go off of the numbers because they are the only thing that is real in this discussion.


It's all numbers, even the projections...Isn't there more to it than just Lillard's numbers? If we had a re-draft today, do you think most GMs would take Lillard with the 1st pick? They should based on the numbers/facts, right?

There's more to it than that...Also, Davis' numbers are impressive as well....Lillard has scored well, but Davis' stats otherwise are more impressive across the board.

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As one poster said, based off your argument Drummond is the best C in the game based off his minutes. And I like Drummond, but come on? No way thats real.


I didn't say that...IF Davis was given the big minutes, he WOULD BE a top PF, imo. He needs the opportunity, but he would excel if he got the shot...Of course, I don't know this for sure, but all I can do is speculate in these circumstances...I think the stats support it (doesn't always work out).

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And i said DeRozan and Wade as examples because youre argument was that if your a good scorer as guard, you would be draining 3s all day, so thanks for proving my point. Wade and Derozan are 2 legit NBA scorers and they are guards, but they cant make 3s.


The only point I made was that most of the starting PGs in the league that can score are good 3 point shooters.

...Scoring and 3-point shooting go hand-in-hand often for PGs (unlike for PFs).

I said that in response to you saying Lillard is an elite three-point shooter, which is not the case. So, thank you for proving my point.

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Stop acting like were saying Lillard is going to be better than Davis, because thats not what im saying at all. All im saying is both are legit NBA players and both have bright futures and will be at the top of the league one day. Cant hate on Lillard for playing more minutes than AD, just like I cant hate on AD for playing less minutes. Thats out of there control.



I'm not hating on anyone...I just don't agree that Lillard is definitely gonna be a top player at his position. I feel more confident that Davis will. I could be wrong. All I can do is call it like I see it with the small, 60 game sample.

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