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re: Saints release David Thomas and Johnny Patrick.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 8:54 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 2/20/13 at 8:54 am to Lester Earl
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another great defensive drafted player, gone after 2 years
Oh yeah that's right, thats all on Loomis when its defensive side of the ball. Payton has no say so about the defense, the whole drafting and scouting structure of the saints crumbles when it comes to the D cause Loomis takes on the role of Chief Defensive position drafter and nobody else had any say so in it including most importantly the head coach.
I'd rather a GM that knows when to cut bait when they should rather than keeping a player on roster so they can appear they didn't make a bad choice. LesterGearl.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 8:59 am to Chad504boy
I think this def opens up a slim possibility of the Badger in the third/fourth
At this rate we absolutely need another CB/S regardless.
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At this rate we absolutely need another CB/S regardless.
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 9:02 am
Posted on 2/20/13 at 9:21 am to Chad504boy
Sounds like the Loomis is nothing but a bean counter when analyzing great moves and he is a bum when a guy doesn't pan out mentality. This kinda throwing shite against the wall and seeing what sticks approach avoids the facts.
Drafting is like a batting average. HERE is a great piece on the success rate in drafting. Excerpts-
Judging productive players or players who have NFL-caliber traits over the last five or six years, he sees a .560 hit percentage for the first and second rounds; .350 for the third, fourth and fifth rounds; and .333 for the sixth and seventh rounds.
“Even in the first two rounds, you’re going to miss 44 percent of the time,” Reinfeldt said. “… It’s a tough business. There is a lot of exposure to it. I think you need to be realistic and compare historically to what other clubs have done.”
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It is clear that the Saints have had much better success in players on the offensive side of the ball. Could a whole staff of scouts be that much better on one side than the other? I doubt it. Four DCs in 7 years tells you about the instability and lack of success on that side. Just like we see some "Who's he?" players thrive in Payton's dynamic offense you'll see no names become names in a Dick LeBeau defense.
Drafting is like a batting average. HERE is a great piece on the success rate in drafting. Excerpts-
Judging productive players or players who have NFL-caliber traits over the last five or six years, he sees a .560 hit percentage for the first and second rounds; .350 for the third, fourth and fifth rounds; and .333 for the sixth and seventh rounds.
“Even in the first two rounds, you’re going to miss 44 percent of the time,” Reinfeldt said. “… It’s a tough business. There is a lot of exposure to it. I think you need to be realistic and compare historically to what other clubs have done.”
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It is clear that the Saints have had much better success in players on the offensive side of the ball. Could a whole staff of scouts be that much better on one side than the other? I doubt it. Four DCs in 7 years tells you about the instability and lack of success on that side. Just like we see some "Who's he?" players thrive in Payton's dynamic offense you'll see no names become names in a Dick LeBeau defense.
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