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As a huge fan of TOS I don't think Abrams' Star Trek was true to the spirit of TOS. Some of the technology made no sense and didn't fit into the universe. The movie was void of any moral dilemmas. Hell, it was void of any thought really. Kirk was a smug jackass, which I guess isn't that bad, but Spock was just awful. At least McCoy was well done.

I liked it because in my own mind at least, I rationalized my own assumption that TOS picked up at the level of a more mature, seasoned Enterprise crew than this new Trek movie did. In this movie, they were all green as grass (even immature somewhat) and didn't really know each other or what to expect from each other. So I could excuse that they were not characters who were as fully developed as TOS presented them when it debuted back in the 1960s. But maybe that's just me. I guess I just wanted to like it, so I did.

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Posted on 2/16/13 at 8:05 am to JawjaTigah

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In this movie, they were all green as grass (even immature somewhat) and didn't really know each other or what to expect from each other.

Another offensive aspect of this is the relative disregard they give to Starfleet's organization.

I get they're green. I know the goal of the movie was for us to see Kirk bang the first alien chick, hear McCoy utter the "I'm a doctor, not a..." catchphrase for the first time, Scotty make the first inflated repair estimate, Spock muse on illogical human behavior for the first time... I get all that cliched crap that goes with a reboot.

However, where it lost me was that little of it made sense - the original canon didn't specify, but it is reasonable to assume that perhaps Uhura and Sulu went to the Academy together. But, to keep the crew intact for the reboot, they basically had Kirk go the same time as Uhura and Sulu. Scotty was in a purgatory assignment and McCoy got pulled in - and that was reasonable as in TOS, they are older than Kirk (as is Spock) and it is possible all 3 are senior to Kirk in service - but they all followed specialty tracks (McCoy, especially), and Kirk was on a fast track to command.

But then, it just goes off the rails on a crazy train - Pike "senses" something, and ultimately puts Kirk in command? WTF? So, now he jumps from newly commissioned ensign to O-6, without spending any significant time learning the job?

I understand that reboots are always tricky. I certainly don't expect them to explain every detail or background they changed - there isn't enough time. But what they imply ought to make sense, right?

In TOS, Kirk was VERY young to be in charge of a Constitution class at 35 - after 12 years of service. Obviously he made quick work of his ensign and lieutenant assignments, and was rapidly moved into a First Officer job to groom him for command. That is part of the Kirk legend - he was quickly identified as a future captain and moved up accordingly. However, it was because of demonstrated potential and performance under fire. Not some magical intuition that Pike has about an alternate reality version of this punk kid.

Little about the 2009 movie made any sense. Whatever entertainment value it might have had was lost in this (at least for me).

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