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re: Home Prices Show Biggest Rise in 6 Years

Posted on 2/10/13 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/10/13 at 2:48 pm to
I thought the problem with the housing market was that the average consumer was paying more than what they could afford. Home values increased more than median salaries.

If home prices go right back up to where they were, then have we really fixed the problem. Are we not just reverting back to the bubble?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/10/13 at 3:07 pm to
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then have we really fixed the problem


A big difference is mortgage interest rates are nearly half what they were in 2002-2006 when most of the mortgages that defaulted originated. So if you are reducing your monthly payment by 20-25% people can afford to pay more. even if incomes haven't increased much.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/10/13 at 5:21 pm to
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I thought the problem with the housing market was that the average consumer was paying more than what they could afford. Home values increased more than median salaries.


I don't think that really gets to the heart of what the problem was.

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If home prices go right back up to where they were, then have we really fixed the problem. Are we not just reverting back to the bubble?


Well I seriously doubt that they are going to reach December 2005 levels in terms of real prices any time within the next decade.

Nonetheless, I am in a very general sense sympathetic to your viewpoint here, and as I said in that ZIRP thread I created a couple of months ago, I think Bernanke has been making a huge mistake with monetary policy ever since the beginning of 2011, similar to what Greenspan did (with Bernanke's voting support) in 2003.

So is another housing bubble being created? No, I very much doubt that. At the same time, however, I do think that monetary policy is generally causing artificially high asset prices, and that includes housing. The U.S. appears to be running into what I previously thought would never happen--Japanese-variety ZIRP-style problems where artificially high asset prices, low growth, and low inflation become an entrenched phenomenon that acts sort of like a macroeconomic tar baby. It really is a terrible thing to behold.
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