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re: Saints fire Spags and announce switch to 3-4 defense

Posted on 1/24/13 at 8:20 pm to
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 8:20 pm to
If I may jump into ST, why is this change being made now? Is this a white flag before the season in order to lay the groundwork for the future?

Your DL isn't good enough to do its 3-4 purpose and eat up OL.

Your LBs, assuming they can get freed up, are average at best, and now you're putting even more pressure on them to make plays and be the sure tacklers.

Your OLBs aren't good pash rush generators.

Your players all have 4-3 experience. This is clearly a newly initiated direction. You sure haven't been building for this.

Sounds like you're overhauling the entire defensive roster (which you probably should) at once and growing with it. I also assume Payton just assumes the defense can't possibly get any worse so might as well start over.
This post was edited on 1/24/13 at 8:22 pm
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
66360 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 8:27 pm to
I don't think you wave a white flag with a top 3 to 4 qb. I think it's a lot easier to find pieces for a 3-4 these days than elite 4-3 pieces. Cam Jordan, should excel, as should Lofton. Martez and junior are significantly more geared to play OLB than with their hands in the dirt. They don't need to be SF good just top 18-20.
This post was edited on 1/24/13 at 8:30 pm
Posted by Boudin
Lafayette
Member since Oct 2006
10133 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 8:30 pm to
Well our line was getting no pressure to begin with..

We do have some talented tweener DE/LBs in Galette and Tez Wilson that haven't been able to see playing time. They'll see the field now.

Smith, Bunkley/Hicks and Jordan can eat up lineman..

This will work better than what we had
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
66624 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

Your players all have 4-3 experience.
(worst in NFL history)

This is clearly a newly initiated direction.
(from the worst in NFL history)

You sure haven't been building for this.
(we built the worst defense in NFL history)

Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 1/24/13 at 8:34 pm to
We may not have the pieces to make a good 3-4 right now, but we also didn't have the pieces to make a good 4-3. The players we have that are good in the front 7 (Jordan and Lofton) can transfer over to the 3-4 fairly well. Jordan does have 3-4 experience and is actually a better fit for that scheme. We also have 2 de's who are too small for the 4-3 but may fit the 3-4 as olb's.

It's also just a radical change in an area that needed some kind of radical change. At the least the defense couldn't get any worse. I didn't think this would happen, and I actually argued against ithe 3-4 when it was brought up in the past. I think it's safe to assume that Payton knows more than me though.
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