This is coming from the guy saying Brady would be out of the league if it wasn't for Belichick.

I'm sorry that I enjoy seeing greatness everytime TB12 hits the field.

I'm sorry for liking a guy who 334 TDs compared to 99 interceptions (fwiw, Drew is at 324/165 and Peyton is at 436/209), who has won 3 championships (two as MVP of the SB), won two MVPs (2007 and 2010), and is a guaranteed first ballet HoFer.

I'd make some rude joke about Brees, but I'm not ignorant enough to think he's some sort of average player that succeeds because of system.

Oh, and just for shits and giggles.

2001-2005 were run based system that used playaction as a main source of big plays in the passing game. Defense was critical.

2007-2009 were the Brady to Moss connection. All shotgun vertical game with little draws to stay effective.

2010 was the Army of Smurfs offense.

2011 was the Tightends/Welkah offense, with a non-existent running game.

This year is crazy hurry up, power running, and just abusing NFL defenses with how crazy adaptable and flexible this offense is.

That is 5 completely different offensive systems, one was even implemented MID SEASON because Randy was traded.

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Posted by afatgreekcat

Atlanta, GA

Member since Jan 2013

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Posted on 1/13/13 at 11:35 pm to Jcorye1

ETA:I am not/was not trolling, btw

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This is coming from the guy saying Brady would be out of the league if it wasn't for Belichick.

Read it again. I said there was a possibility he wouldn't be in New England anymore. I never said he wouldn't be in the league.

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I'm sorry for liking a guy who 334 TDs compared to 99 interceptions (fwiw, Drew is at 324/165 and Peyton is at 436/209), who has won 3 championships (two as MVP of the SB), won two MVPs (2007 and 2010), and is a guaranteed first ballet HoFer.

That is all great. I'm glad for you. But I fail to see the point of going on a New Orleans Saints board to talk about your love for the Patriots.

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I'd make some rude joke about Brees, but I'm not ignorant enough to think he's some sort of average player that succeeds because of system.

I am going to clarify what I meant when I posted that.

Brady was not that impressive coming out of college.. His tanking in the draft is proof of that. BB drafted him and they have obviously been, for the most part, unstoppable since then. I am of the opinion that if Brady was drafted somewhere else, and was not coached by the greatest fricking football coach of all time he would not be on the same level that he is right now.

I will absolutely agree that he is a badass.. But I think that is a product of the system that Bill Belichick runs. Sure, said system has changed (as you just proved), but the common factor in all of those is Bill motherfricking Belichick. He has developed into an unstoppable force because of the system(s). That is not to say that, at this point in his career, if he went somewhere else like Peyton did, he would not find success. I firmly believe that he would. He is a damn good quarterback. But all of that success is on the shoulders of Bill Belichick.

One thing that you can say about Peyton and Brees (not to say that they're better) is that they have both found success in multiple systems, with multiple teams under multiple coaches.. Brady has always been with BB. I find it hard to crown Brady as the GOAT when BB has been there his entire career, because BB is the true GOAT.

All of that being said, I really don't want a huge argument about this. I am not trying to debate Drew vs Brady or anything like that. But you're barking up the wrong tree trying to argue about this here.