I never said that. Putting words into my mouth I see.

I think it should be regulated to keep the fishery sustainable but not with all these BS models they come up with.

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They don't need a lobby, just people placed on the right boards to carry water for them.

They don't have any powerful lobbying groups like you think. Their supposed powerful lobbying group is non-existent.

You said it's all about recreationals vs. commercials still. News flash for you- the recreationals won out 15-20 years ago. Commercials can hardly fish anything now. They took away redfish and speckle trout. Two of the most abundant fish in Louisiana and even in the country. Commercials have so many laws now today that they can barely fish anything and the fisherman left are dying out. They attacked the tuna industry years ago and took away live bait and regulated other things. The tuna longline fleet is down from about 250 boats in the early 90's to about 25 today. The commercial industry has been in shambles for 10+ years. Instead of complaining about the commercials for no fish maybe you should learn to fish better.

There are tons of red snapper out there off of Louisiana's shores but the FEDS are using some BS model to set limits.

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weren't you the guy shilling for restaurants and commercials a while back?

Not sure what you are talking about but I grew up in the commercial industry and saw what happened first hand. The reason the commercials got beat was they couldn't organize or agree on anything amongst each other and they faced a huge recreational lobbying group that had more political power than them in this corrupt state. My parents spent over $150,000 fighting some of these laws 20 years ago and had some of the state's top biologists on the commercial's side also. Biologists who thought tighter regulations should be considered instead of outright bans.

By the way, I am now only recreational fisherman (inshore saltwater and offshore saltwater) and have always been one actually. I am able to see both sides and not just one side.

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Posted by Mung

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Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:03 pm to JasonL79

yeah, I thought we had this argument before, and your commercial fishing roots were outed.

My initial response was to someone blaming Obama. You responded blaming bureaucracy and the desire of the current administration to regulate everything. I think there are much bigger fish to fry, and there is no secret agenda to stop fishing.

I totally agree with you that the current situation is completely SNAFU, and not based on what we see here in LA. However, to the extent that it is based on actual science, hopefully it will produce dividends in the future. So we suck up a few years of lower creel limits, and when they come back in all age classes we enjoy the benefits.

If commercial fishermen had a history of sustainable management of the resources so that everyone could enjoy it, i might side with them. But they never have. They have caused the shortage in virtually every species, that recreationals have to take lower limits for. Plus, in La they get most of the snapper, and can catch pretty much everything but redfish, they are only limited by method. They can even catch and sell trout, just not in a gill net.

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