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Unnamed Saints player tells all about Spags

Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:13 pm
Posted by cajunsaint
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
574 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:13 pm
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:14 pm to

This is gunna be gud
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Players throughout the season gave a uniform voice of support for New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo and the drastically different scheme he brought to the team when the Saints hired him one year ago. That doesn't sound like the case anymore.

One Saints player, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said a "resounding" yes when asked if he thought Spagnuolo should be fired after just one season in New Orleans as the Saints broke the single-season record for most yards allowed.

"Trust me all the guys were being politically correct this season when answering questions (this season)," the player said. "It's bad."

The player added: "To give up what we gave up can't be all talent. Look at where his units (have) been ranked before. I think one top 10?"

The Saints finished last in the NFL in total defense, last in run defense, 31st in pass defense, 31st in points allowed and tied for 29th in sacks.

"Players have no say in anything," the player said. "It was (a) complete opposite from before where it was a simple D that players had lot of control and say. We couldn't suggest (expletive)...Nothing ever changed. It was his way only.

"Don't even get me started on lack (of) ability to adjust during games. Bad, bad, bad."

The player also said every position group on defense was frustrated with Spagnuolo's scheme all season. "(It was) tough putting on a supportive, everything-will-be-OK face, for you guys (the media) all the time," the player said.

The player said it wasn't just wasn't Spagnuolo's scheme that rubbed players the wrong way. It was Spagnuolo as a coach and a person.

"He does have that good-guy persona, but he is a control freak and treats people like crap," the player said. (Spagnuolo has) no patience and zero personality. (He) has a way of pissing players and our defensive coaches off with how he says and does things. (I) think it's even harder after having (former defensive coordinator) Gregg (Williams), who guys enjoyed."
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 11:17 pm
Posted by Boomhauer
Member since Dec 2012
2606 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:18 pm to
Awww shite, it's Lovie time
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:37 pm to
Wow. A lot of that seems like a load of crap to me. Whoever this guy is really doesn't think it's the talent? And no ability to adjust? I give a pass on the first 4 games considering all the suspensions and whatnot. But Spags really started to show his mettle and things coming together. Take a look at the Atlanta game for example. Brees had 5 picks and they still only won by a little over a TD. While this defense had been horrendous at times, even a blind man can see the potential and progress they made.

Oh and when you can't apply a single lick of QB pressure without nearly sending the house on every play, then yeah, I'd say its a talent deficit
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:39 pm to
Posted by eyeran
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2007
22096 posts
Posted on 1/1/13 at 11:54 pm to
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The player added: "To give up what we gave up can't be all talent.

Look at where his units (have) been ranked before. I think one top 10?"
Contradiction for 500 Alex...

Dumb frick. Whoever said this was clearly part of the problem. Outside of 3 or 4 guys, they all suck arse.

Im sure it was AWESOME for Payton to have to sit at home, just like us all these years, watching these bums the last 5 months. I hope he comes back and carpet bombs the whole group
This post was edited on 1/2/13 at 12:03 am
Posted by loyalauron
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2012
1325 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:29 am to
You're all wrong. It was definitely Roman Harper. Bama thug.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:46 am to
I seriously thought Shanle when I first read this. Of course he would love GW. Who else would have let him be a starter for 3 straight years without bringing in real competition?

As far as Spags, I doubt he didn't listen to any of the players. You could start to see, I think starting around the Philly game, that we started doing more blitzing; something the players were use to.

If we concentrate on cranking up our pass rush in the off season, we'll be fine.

I think people forget just how bad our offense looked at the beginning of the year. We were going 3 and out all the time, and while the defense was bad, the numbers were inflated.

Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
33042 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:16 am to
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Unnamed Saints


I don't think you can read too much into this story based on this alone. If it's somebody like Shanle or Ellis, who gives a shite. Now if it's Vilma or Greer then it's an issue IMO.

quote:

"(Spagnuolo has) no patience and zero personality. (He) has a way of pissing players and our defensive coaches off with how he says and does things. (I) think it's even harder after having (former defensive coordinator) Gregg (Williams), who guys enjoyed."


If that's the case, that coupled with the horrible defense, I could see Payton letting him go.

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"To give up what we gave up can't be all talent. Look at where his units (have) been ranked before. I think one top 10?"


Got me interested to see what he has historically been ranked:

2007 Giants - 17th in Points, 7th in Yards
2008 Gaints - 5th in Points, 5th in Yards
2009 Rams - 31st in Points, 29 in Yards
2010 Rams - 12th in Points, 19th in Yards
2011 Rams - 26th in Points, 27th in Yards
2012 Saints - 31st in Points, 32 in Yards

Posted by Cajun Revolution
Member since Apr 2009
44671 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:38 am to
There we go...talk about Spags. Maybe if half the guys on defense weren't slow as Terrance Cody we'd be better.

Shanle is the last person who needs to be talking. The only two things that value him are Greg Williams and Madden 2011.
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
16698 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 9:47 am to
I think it was Harper.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:10 pm to
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Unnamed Saints player tells all


All but his name. frick whoever this is.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 1/2/13 at 12:18 pm to
I never trust these "annonymous players"

For all anyone knows it's one guy who was unhappy with his playng time, or looking to blame the DC for his own shortcommings.

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