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re: Just got back from seeing Django Unchained

Posted on 12/26/12 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 12/26/12 at 7:35 pm to
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but for how shaken he was and for how profound of an effect it had on him, it didn't seem to bug him much until it was dramatically suitable. he still executed the plan to a T, and the only frickup was by django's wife (not shultz)

He begs to stop it, offers to buy the man's freedom, explicitly stating his life is worth $500. He argues with Django about playing the character too well. And his reaction is a topic of conversation.

How much of a reaction do you want? Fireworks? Would you like Tarantino to walk out in front of the action and explain this scene is important. He practically did. It wasn't subtle.

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by that point in time it was already clear that candie was an idiot and stephen was the HNIC

Candie was not an idiot. He's vain and a poseur, but he is not dumb. He is not portrayed that why either, and he does pick up on Schultz's doubts.

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i don't think this movie was shot very slick and he's becoming preachy and lost direction.

I thought it was well shot, playing up the dirty nature of both the west and the south. Then the pristine nature of the plantation itself. An important contrast. But yes, if indicting slavery as evil (and the Nazis as being bad) is getting too preachy then, yes, guilty as charged. But those are rather easy targets and should be condemned. Unless you're just mad its your ox getting gored.

It's an ox that deserves goring.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/26/12 at 7:42 pm to
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He begs to stop it, offers to buy the man's freedom, explicitly stating his life is worth $500. He argues with Django about playing the character too well. And his reaction is a topic of conversation.

How much of a reaction do you want? Fireworks? Would you like Tarantino to walk out in front of the action and explain this scene is important. He practically did. It wasn't subtle.

i have no problem accepting that he was affected by this. we'd have seen real examples of the effects and not the same character...until it's dramatically favorable

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Candie was not an idiot. He's vain and a poseur, but he is not dumb.

it seems like everything he did without his magical negro was pretty stupid or just mean and not really intelligent

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But yes, if indicting slavery as evil (and the Nazis as being bad) is getting too preachy then, yes, guilty as charged.

he picked easy targets and in IB he gave us a villain that had rounding to him. we could at least respect lanza for being fricking awesome at what he was doing (which actually makes him more evil). all the white people dealing with the plantation were flat (evil or stupid), other than the magical negro.

it's really easy and cheap to pick slavery as your evil and then make all those associated with it simple, hateable characters
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