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re: Josh Hamilton agrees to terms with Angels 5 yrs/125 Mill

Posted on 12/14/12 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 12/14/12 at 3:56 pm to
What's your issue here? The money aspect? Or that he doesn't improve the lineup?

Of course he's aging. And of course it will be a terrible contract eventually. That's basically the price you pay when you are trying to milk the last few great years out of a player; you're going to be paying a lot of money for a mediocre player one day.

Another thing- people act like being an Adam Dunn player is terrible. 40 HR with a high OBP trumps a bad BA and a bad contact rate. If that player is "worth it" is arbitrary.

And for the 4th time, LA was more hitter friendly than Arlington last season!!!
Posted by OBUDan
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/14/12 at 4:01 pm to
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What's your issue here? The money aspect? Or that he doesn't improve the lineup?


Money in relation to how much he improves the lineup. ETA: Moreso that it didn't really address their actual needs.

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Of course he's aging. And of course it will be a terrible contract eventually. That's basically the price you pay when you are trying to milk the last few great years out of a player; you're going to be paying a lot of money for a mediocre player one day.


I know, but I think he has a lot more issues than Pujols did... or even ARod.

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Another thing- people act like being an Adam Dunn player is terrible. 40 HR with a high OBP trumps a bad BA and a bad contact rate. If that player is "worth it" is arbitrary.


Not saying it's bad. It's just not 25 million good. I thought I've said that pretty consistently.

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And for the 4th time, LA was more hitter friendly than Arlington last season!!!


Based on what?

From ESPN:

Ballpark at Arlingon had more Runs scored, more HRs, hits, doubles, triples...

Based on baseball reference, Angel Stadium scored a 92 where 100 is neutral, less is pitcher friendly and greater is hitter friendly. Arlington ranked at 111...
This post was edited on 12/14/12 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 12/14/12 at 4:06 pm to
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And for the 4th time, LA was more hitter friendly than Arlington last season!!!


TEX park factor
1-year: 107
multiyear: 112

LAA park factor
1-year: 91
mutliyear: 92

So, no. Texas wasn't just a better hitter's park, it was a MUCH better hitters park.


As for Hamilton suddenly getting worse. It's the strikeout rate. If it's a one-year aberration, no biggee. But he went from 93 K to 162 K in one season. That's a massive jump. If he continues to strikeout like that, his average will likely plummet. It's very hard to maintain a high average with a huge number of K's. It's a bad indicator. How does a BA average slip by 75 points in two years? By adding 70 additional strikeouts. When he hit 359, he struck out 95 times.
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