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re: 1908 National Champions
Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:00 am to Pilot Tiger
Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:00 am to Pilot Tiger
quote:
this is very debatable
No doubt it's debatable.
Here's a decent article that breaks down the cases for each team in '08.
LINK
ETA: This part of the article cracked me up...
quote:
LSU is not even a legitimate contender. But to the school's credit, they do not claim this "national championship." Alabama would already have made the banners and rings by now if it were them.
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 9:05 am
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:06 am to nvasil1
quote:
No doubt it's debatable.
Here's a decent article that breaks down the cases for each team in '08.
LINK
Hm... not sure how I feel about it. Seems like he did some research, but unless he was alive in 1908, I doubt he actually saw any of those teams play. At the end of the day, he's just a blogger. He has a valid opinion, but it's no more valuable than yours or mine.
If the National Championship Foundation saw fit to award the 1908 National Title to LSU, I see no reason the football program shouldn't acknowledge it.
Plus acknowledging it is a way of validating LSU throughout the course of CFB history. It shows that LSU has always been good, unlike some flash in the pan program like Florida who's only been relevant since the 90's.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 4:37 pm to nvasil1
nvasil1
In his article he doesn't do a very good job on the breakdown. When you look postion by position then you see where the talent is or isn't.
Also there is a key team to look at to look to see at what level all the teams are playing at:
Haskell Indian School (nations)
Football back then is very different than today, and one can look at common scores to get a good idea of where teams stood in that era.
Jim Thrope played on the 1907 and 08 Carlisle teams, then played Pro Baseball 2 years in the Caroline League before heading back to Carlisle to play the 1911-12 seasons.
Also Pop paid his players up until the 1909 season right at 10.50 a game. Then he used a credit line systems to give players money from the store on campus. Needless to say Jim had a large credit line at the time.
Jim was a ture pro in every season and in every way for those times. But do not think Pop is the only one doing this, other schools had other ways to get money to the players.
In his article he doesn't do a very good job on the breakdown. When you look postion by position then you see where the talent is or isn't.
Also there is a key team to look at to look to see at what level all the teams are playing at:
Haskell Indian School (nations)
Football back then is very different than today, and one can look at common scores to get a good idea of where teams stood in that era.
Jim Thrope played on the 1907 and 08 Carlisle teams, then played Pro Baseball 2 years in the Caroline League before heading back to Carlisle to play the 1911-12 seasons.
Also Pop paid his players up until the 1909 season right at 10.50 a game. Then he used a credit line systems to give players money from the store on campus. Needless to say Jim had a large credit line at the time.
Jim was a ture pro in every season and in every way for those times. But do not think Pop is the only one doing this, other schools had other ways to get money to the players.
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 4:46 pm
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