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re: When do we start putting the blame on Monty Williams?

Posted on 12/6/12 at 6:35 am to
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 6:35 am to
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Such is inevitable when the entire machine hinges on Greivis Vasquez, who put together a solid 16 points, nine assists, and five rebounds but can’t well carry the creative load of an entire team when the Lakers are coming at him in waves.
Posted by NemesisKING
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 12/6/12 at 7:58 am to
I blame Monty for not cutting Brian Roberts and Lance Thomas. I blame Monty for trying to WIN games with Greivis Vasquez and Roger Mason as your starters instead of going full on development mode.

If you're going to try and wing, at least bring in some talent if not experience to help with that effort.
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
9634 posts
Posted on 12/6/12 at 8:38 am to
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16 points on 19 shots, nine assists with 4 TOs in a 20 point loss 


FIFY

I like Vasquez. He's a solid NBA player. However his talent and skill set makes him best suited for a backup role.

He's a pg who can't break his defender down without a screen, he can't shoot (off the dribble or spot up- he fits as well as Rivers does when Gordon comes back to run PnR..just another guy defenses can ignore off ball), he doesn't get to the line, and he turns the ball over too much given what he creates. Not to mention he is a turnstile on defense.

There nothing wrong with him being best suited as a backup. He can be very useful. I'm not sure why you are crusading to legitimize him as a championship caliber pg.

I know you made your list, but here's the problem: Vasquez is a traditional point in the table setter mold. His best skill is finding the open man. Almost all of the guys on your list were mediocre starting pgs, but they weren't table setters for their team. Aside from Parker and Billups, most were asked to spot up and play defense. The one guy who was a table setter- Rondo- is light years better than Vasquez as a creator and a defender.

You are absolutely right that you don't need an All-Star pg to win a title. You can win with a guy who can hit open shots as a 4th or 5th option and play decent defense. Vasquez hasn't shown he can do either of those things yet.
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