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re: It's time to ban dog deer hunting
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:36 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:36 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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If you can't kill a deer without a rifle you're a sorry arse hunter
If you can't kill a deer without a box stand you're a sorry arse hunter
If you can't kill a deer without corn you're a sorry arse hunter.
That argument can be applied to literary EVERYTHING we use to hunt.
yeah but my rifle, box stand, corn, etc. do not trespass on your land and scare your deer off.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:38 pm to bushwacker
That is in no way the point you were trying to make. You were saying that people who use dogs to kill deer do it because they suck at hunting so much that there's no other way for them to do it, which is hardly the way it is.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:39 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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5-10%
So 10% of your hunts completely ruin the hunting of anyone who wishes to hunt the land nearby, and causes the deer to go nocturnal anywhere nearby 100% of deer season.
And if the dogs get out 10% of the time on your 3,000 acre lease, imagine what the percentage is for the vast majority of dog hunters who have waayyyy less land.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:40 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
not all of them, just the ones that i know in this area. and i have hunted with them and killed a deer in front of their dogs. will not do it again.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:41 pm to faxis
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Then call the cops on them every time they trespass.
The hunters don't trespass. The dogs do. Cops are not going to respond to a trespassing dog. Game wardens are only going to respond when they can, which is rare since there are only a few in every county and they are busy as hell on a fall Saturday. And any time you call the warden, the dog hunters are long gone by the time they show up 4 hours later.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:42 pm to Monticello
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So 10% of your hunts completely ruin the hunting of anyone who wishes to hunt the land nearby, and causes the deer to go nocturnal anywhere nearby 100% of deer season.
Hardly. If they leave our boarders, it's either to cane fields or a highway where they get ran over. Nobody hunts our boundaries.
And running dogs definitely doesn't make deer nocturnal. Keeping a constant supply and corn and rice bran everywhere sure does though...
quote:
And if the dogs get out 10% of the time on your 3,000 acre lease, imagine what the percentage is for the vast majority of dog hunters who have waayyyy less land.
It depends on who does it, how their land is, what kind of dogs they have, etc.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:44 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
:stirringthepot:
Dog hunters are the lowest of the low
Dog hunters are the lowest of the low
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:46 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
#TeamDownShift
As long as its done within boundaries
As long as its done within boundaries
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:47 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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DownshiftAndFloorIt
You tell me an effective way for game wardens to end the continuous problem of trespassing hounds and I will fully support dog deer hunting. Even you yourself admit your dogs trespass 10% of your hunts, and you are in the rare minority that have 3,000 acres.
If I trespass on my neighbors land 10% of the time and ever get caught, I lose my hunting license and get prosecuted. When your dogs trespass 10% of the time, nothing happens to you if caught and your dogs trespassing do far more damage than me walking across the fence line.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:48 pm to Monticello
It's a lot of pressure when they run them every day during dog season, but when the neighors of our old lease had a ton of land and when they'd line up near our property it was bad and good. Sometimes it would be a dead morning, sometimes we'd have dogs wandering our lease, but other times they'd run deer right onto us. If I knew they were running dogs on one of our lines in the morning I'd hunt a stand on that line. shite the biggest buck taken on our property came through on a guy hunting a stand on a property line at 11:30 after they ran dogs right across the hill from him all morning.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:48 pm to Monticello
Hunting with dogs on 200 acres doesn't make much sense anyway. With 8 guys you could do a man drive and just about cover the whole property.
Where downshift is, they got plenty room. It's about the only way to hunt there.
Where downshift is, they got plenty room. It's about the only way to hunt there.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:48 pm to mylsuhat
I hate the idiots riding around turning loose 30 dogs at a time shooting down roads and all that shite as much as anyone else because they are the reason that my kids will probably never get to enjoy a good dog hunt.
You people who are crying for a banning need to sit down and really think about what you'll be doing by signing that ban.
You people who are crying for a banning need to sit down and really think about what you'll be doing by signing that ban.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:49 pm to Monticello
Encountered this same problem in Pike County, Ala. Been on both sides of this issue. If you don't have thousands of acres for the dogs to run on, folks get mighty upset when the dogs cross that property line. Seen it come to fisticuffs, guns drawn, dogs shot, and family splits. I enjoy a deer dog hunt simply because I like to hear those Runnin Walkers get it on. But I like to hear any kind of trailin hound, too. I guess the answer is if you ain't got the acres, don't dog hunt.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:49 pm to mylsuhat
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As long as its done within boundaries
boundaries in the basin are bayous. and when the deer gets tired of running around from dogs, they cross the bayou where the king democrat is waiting in his boat and shoots the deer as he is getting out the water, or throws a rope around his neck and shoots.
i have seen it. lydia democrats.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:50 pm to faxis
Shoot them and throw them on the highway. Dogs get run over all the time!
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:50 pm to Monticello
Catch the dogs and take them to the pound.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:52 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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You people who are crying for a banning need to sit down and really think about what you'll be doing by signing that ban.
I'm with ya bro. we don't get to do it anymore but i sure miss it
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:52 pm to Monticello
Quit reading selectively. We know that our dogs leaving our property isn't a big deal, because the people who own the surrounding land do nothing but farm cane on it, and a deer hound on their property every now and then has zero bearing on their lives. Most of them hunt with us once or twice a year. We've been here since the 40's and have very good ties with our neighbors.
Posted on 11/26/12 at 5:54 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
like i said downshift, you do it correctly and are in the minority. the ones i have hunted with and seen in action give dog hunters a bad name.
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