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Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
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Posted on 11/28/12 at 12:32 pm to
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If the whole "value investing" buffet approach isn't as profitable going forward, what are your thoughts on strategy? I get what you are saying- rates are bottomed out, growth will not be near as explosive going forward, etc. I'm always open to hearing thoughts and advice on what strategy might be best going forward.

Sorry it took me so long to respond. Forgot about this thread.

The best strategy going forward, I believe, is global tactical opportunity allocation. By that I mean finding intermediate-term mispricing of assets based on risk. Unfortunately this is not an easy strategy because risk is so hard to quantify, but the biggest opportunities for growth going forward will be outside of developed countries.

An example would be to buy bonds in Italy or Spain at the steepest part of the yield curve in the 0-5 year area. That way you take advantage of the price appreciation you recieve from your bond "rolling down" the yield curve while maximizing yield at the time. The reason your risk is muted is from the ECB's OMT program that these countries can enroll in if they really need to lower borrowing costs.

This is not a new strategy, but it is the most appropriate for a low return world as you have to take advantage of the fewer opportunities present in the market. Declining corporate revenue and very low interest rates provide this low return market. Think of it as a slowly draining fish pond, with fewer and fewer fish as the pond drains. To be able to catch the remaining fish, you will have a good enough fishing pole (macro view) to aim exactly where you want to cast and a wide array of bait (tactical view) to catch any type of fish. You can't just sit in the same spot (US) and keep casting with the same bait (strategy). You have to be nimble and dynamic.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/28/12 at 3:11 pm to
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This is not a new strategy, but it is the most appropriate for a low return world as you have to take advantage of the fewer opportunities present in the market. Declining corporate revenue and very low interest rates provide this low return market.


Tell Bill I'll hang in there with PIMCO but that he needs to reduce his costs, like pronto in the ZIRP world.

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If the whole "value investing" buffet approach isn't as profitable going forward, what are your thoughts on strategy?


Buffet hasn't been known as a value investor in years, more like growth at a reasonable cost in wide moat companies. He has said numerous times in the last 10-15 years that if he invested as an individual and then could access the small cap universe he would make multiples compared to what he has been relegated to doing due to the size of BRK.
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