re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

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To me, it showed that Tyrion had cracked. He puts up with so much shite from absolutely everyone and just tries to go on with life being a little pImp as usual, but the Tysha revelation and then seeing Shae, who he probably trusted more than anyone else in King's Landing, had betrayed him as well, he just snapped.

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Good explanation. I can see that part of it more than the Tywin part.

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As for Tywin, I think that discussion was a few pages ago wasn't it? Someone posted things that made it seem like Tywin was the one who had a secret passage built to Chataya's whore house, so it may not be as out of character as you think.

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I've kept up pretty well with this thread and didn't see that. Can someone who posted in that discussion link?

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On my second read through the series, a particular quote stuck out to me regarding Tywin and whores. When Varys shows Tyrion the secret passage from the stable to Chataya's whore house, he tells Tyrion that a previous Hand of the King used this passage because discretion was of the utmost importance for him (or something very similar). Having known what was to come between Tywin and Shae, it really stuck out to me and I assumed he was referring to Tywin being that Hand.

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Wow. That is a really good catch.

Still, it doesn't surprise me that GRRM would leave a trail that people looking back would see to justify having Tywin be with a whore.

But I still don't buy it as something the character would do. The fact that there may have been some hints at it doesn't make it much better than if it was totally out of left field.

I just still think it goes against the core of the character.

Tywin was never "good", that's clear. But I at least thought he kept his bed clean

I mean, if nothing else it's even more interesting IMO for this cold blooded assassin that orchestrated the RW, set the Mountain loose on the realm and the Targ children, betrayed Aerys etc. to be like well at least I don't frick dirty whores!!

It makes his obsession with the Lannister name/image all the more fascinating to me than just some crazy arse power hungry murderer who is also like "whores are bad", but screws them all the time in secret.

I just liked that he held onto that one thing as some sort of holier than thou trophy to waive in front of the kingdom and especially Tyrion's face, than just some simple lie.